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Re: Surname Putin
i wont tell you what stupid putin mean , but ill tell you your last name is the 7690 most popular last name in the us, my name is way more popular than that see for yourself at namestatistics that name. My last name weber is the best surname there is , so don't hate ok.Your lat name is poor italian. It mans pizza licker.My name is the best surname.*Weber*. ITs better than all the surnames. MY SURNAME is so valuable im conceited about weber. So who cares about stupid putin.
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Lol @ WeberYou are so funny... Poor little baby Tiara... ¿Cuantos añitos tienes chiquita? ¿Dos añitos? ¿no? ¡POBRE BEBE! If there is an English "Putin" could it be directly related to the "puting" form of the verb "to put" being it given to someone who accomodates something?
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More common doesn't necessarily mean better ...please reserve your editorial comments for other sites ...thanks ...remember, weaving was a very manual, redundant occupation ... at least the Putin's descendants seem to be sober when posting ... not that that is a requirement ... but it helps!
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Probably the british Putin has disappeared. However it existed in Britain since I have found it in the site: www.familysearch.org (Mormons'site).
I am sure that this surname exists in Italy: see www.gens.labo.net
and in France: LA FRANCE DE VOTRE NOM DE FAMILLE.
The italian variant comes from the VENICE region. Probably it comes from a dialect word "putin", that means little baby.
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The first Putin to spring to mind is Vladimir, so Russian Putin.
The -in ending is usually added to words ending in A to make a surname, e.g., forename Nikita makes surname Nikitin. So a descendant of Puta. My Russian dictionary translates puta as "mess." Could it be a nickname for an untidy person?
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But this surname is also Italian: near VENICE and French near LYONS.
Perhaps it existed in Britain, but Mr Foglai said no.
The italian regional surname (extremely rare)has nothing to do with the russian form.It comes from a ventian word "putin", little baby.
V.Putin was born in Saint Petersboug, the former Leningrad, but his surname could be Lithuanian not Russian. See ther site www.familysearch.org.
Unfortunately my knowledge of lithuanian surnames are inexistant!
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I don't think this is a Lithuanian name, but Lithuania was part of the Russian Empire, and I think there is still an ethnic Russian community there. Lithuanian surnames seem, in my limited experience, to need an S at the end, though when borne by females they have different endings. Think of Vitas Gerulaitis, that's a very Lithuanian name. Many Lithuanians have surnames that are Polish in origin, but they adapt them. So Zamecki becomes Zameckis, Marcinkiewicz becomes Marcincovicius.
With regard to an Italian surname Putin, I think that's possible. It would probably be Venetian or Piedmontese. There are some good Italian surname websites if you know some Italian. Try www.comune.occhiobello.ro.it/cognomi. Even if you don't know any Italian just finding the name Putin there will prove your point.
Putin as a French surname? It doesn't feature in Albert Dauzaat's dictionary of French surnames, though that in itself does not settle the argument.
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You were right on Putin as a French and Italian surname, though it is not common in either country. In Italy it is confined to the Veneto region, and Vicenza appears to be a stronghold.
I still haven't found the meaning in either language, though I suspect that the French surname was not a compliment to its bearer.
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PutaSpanish "Puta" is a contraction for "prostitute" probably inspired in the goddess "Puta" (see Encyclopedia Mythica"). Might that have anything to do with this? I doubt it but, make a try.
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In italian "puttana" is also a prostitute like in French "putain"
what is curious is that "puto" originally meant just "little baby"
then the meaning has changed completely.
Only the Venetian surname Putin has kept the original sense of "little
baby=.
Of course the Russian surname has nothing to do with this origin.
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I think we can accept Sagani's interpretation of Putin.
French Putin from putain, a possibility, admittedly. There is also the French surname Puthod, equivalent to the Modern French puant, "stinking." Could Putin have the same origin? Either way, not good news for the French Putins. How fortunate that language changes and the meaning of surnames is lost.
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Personally, althought I suggested that possibility, I doubt that in any of it's variant the word "Puta" as in "slut" originated the surname "Putin" unless one takes any of the following positions:
1.it was an insult given to a family whose cultural differences seemed "far to lascivious" for those who employed it upon the insulted ones; 2.it was not understood as an insult for it was given to a family of hierodules (priestly courtesans; priestesses) or 3.they where the ones who used it to call someone else by this name but this backfired as those so-called thought that word so important to them that they used it as an emblem for those who employed it... And... You know what? That speculation is far to forced into... So... I would go back into the older meanings ("little baby" which might have been an euphemistic apelative for sluts in the same way that old sluts which are retired as such but work as pimps are called "matronas" in a very maternal[-like] sense), foreign (Russian) meanings and similiarly named deites (the god/godess Puto).
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