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I've just read about "mab" ("son" in Cymric) turning into "ap", which now can be seen as a single "p" in the beginning of a surname, like in "Prichard" ("son of Richard") or "Pulliam" ("son of William"). I would like to know more examples of this than these two.
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So the list so far is:
Apjohn, Upjohn = Son of John
Apted = Son of Teoda (or Theodore?)
Baines = Son of Einws
Barry, Parry = Son of Harry
Bedward = Son of Edward
Bellis = Son of Ellis
Beynon = Son of Eynon
Bowen = Son of Owain
Bythel = Son of Ithel
Penry = Son of Henry
Powell = Son of Howell
Price = Son of Rhys
Pri(t)chard = Son of Richard
Probert = Son of Robert
Probin, Probyn = Son of Robin
Prosser = Son of Rosser
Prothero = Son of Rothero
Pryderch = Son of Ryderch
Pugh, Tugh = Son of Hugh
Pulliam = Son of William
So as we see, while they're maybe not the most common kind of surnames, they sure do exist. And because of the Bretons in France, there are relatives to them also in French-speaking countries.
Apjohn, Upjohn = Son of John
Apted = Son of Teoda (or Theodore?)
Baines = Son of Einws
Barry, Parry = Son of Harry
Bedward = Son of Edward
Bellis = Son of Ellis
Beynon = Son of Eynon
Bowen = Son of Owain
Bythel = Son of Ithel
Penry = Son of Henry
Powell = Son of Howell
Price = Son of Rhys
Pri(t)chard = Son of Richard
Probert = Son of Robert
Probin, Probyn = Son of Robin
Prosser = Son of Rosser
Prothero = Son of Rothero
Pryderch = Son of Ryderch
Pugh, Tugh = Son of Hugh
Pulliam = Son of William
So as we see, while they're maybe not the most common kind of surnames, they sure do exist. And because of the Bretons in France, there are relatives to them also in French-speaking countries.
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It just turned out, that if I search for Welsh names instead of Cymric ones (those are probably just about the same thing, right?), I managed to find six more "ap" names through this site.
Apted = Son of Teoda
Baines = Son of Einws
Bowen = Son of Owain
Powell = Son of Howell
Prince = Son of Rhys
Pugh = Son of Hugh
Apted = Son of Teoda
Baines = Son of Einws
Bowen = Son of Owain
Powell = Son of Howell
Prince = Son of Rhys
Pugh = Son of Hugh
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You'll find more at http://www.amethyst-night.com/names/welshsurs.html under the letters B and P.
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Thank you!
And just to make things clear, it's of course "Prince", that orginally meant "son of Rhys", not "Prince".
And just to make things clear, it's of course "Prince", that orginally meant "son of Rhys", not "Prince".
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The prefix becomes a 'B' with names beginning with an a vowel - Bedward, Bellis, Beynon, Bowen; a P with names beginning with an H or an R - Parry (Harry), Penry (Henry), Pugh (Hugh), Probert, Probin, etc.
Names beginning with other consonents don't appear to have retained the prefix in any form.
Names beginning with other consonents don't appear to have retained the prefix in any form.
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You seem to be right. Interesting.
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Two exceptions would be Apjohn and Upjohn.
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