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Help[Opinions] Ruth and Naomi
I've been thinking of both names of late, especially as I try and find compromises. Naomi I like quite a bit, but I highly dislike the America pronunciation of nay-oh-me. I pronounce it nah-oh-mee, and have heard it as such from Hebrew friends. However, I could live with former, as I really am liking the name. Ruth I also like, and have liked, for some time. I love the meaning, and its' history. It's a little harsh by today's standards, but I still like it.
Would sisters Ruth and Naomi be too much? What about sisters Ruth, Naomi, Miriam, and Judith? Those would probably be my top names at the moment, along with Nina. However, I'll never get to use Nina.
Please do not reply with a post that merely states I like/don't like. That isn't helpful in the least. I'd like to know why.
Would sisters Ruth and Naomi be too much? What about sisters Ruth, Naomi, Miriam, and Judith? Those would probably be my top names at the moment, along with Nina. However, I'll never get to use Nina.
Please do not reply with a post that merely states I like/don't like. That isn't helpful in the least. I'd like to know why.
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I really like both of these, and they sound great together imo - both have the same old-fashioned kind of charm, and are uncommon enough not to be boring at all. I don't think they're harsh, just good, strong names.
Miriam fits perfectly too, but Judith sounds more dated.
I say NAY-uh-mee and dislike pronunciations with NYE in and ones where the OH is too prominent, but not so much that I'd be put off the name.
Miriam fits perfectly too, but Judith sounds more dated.
I say NAY-uh-mee and dislike pronunciations with NYE in and ones where the OH is too prominent, but not so much that I'd be put off the name.
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This message was edited 1/18/2008, 7:06 PM
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I think they work well together. If I were to see the sibs, I would assume, "They belong to a Jewish or Christian family who got tired of all the Sarah-Rebeccah-Leah-Rachel sibsets."
I have only heard the pronunciation nay-oh-me even among Jewish people in the US.
Agree that Ruth and Judith are too similar in sound, although I like them both individually.
I have only heard the pronunciation nay-oh-me even among Jewish people in the US.
Agree that Ruth and Judith are too similar in sound, although I like them both individually.
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Ruth indeed has a great history and meaning, but it's somewhat dated and harsh-sounding (that it sounds apalling in my native language doesn't exactly help). And I much prefer Noemi to Naomi.
Ruth, Naomi, Judith and Miriam is a bit too much even from a fellow Hebrew-name lover like myself, it sounds like a sibset from a chassidic family. And just Ruth and Naomi is definitely weird, now that I've remebered the connection.
Ruth, Naomi, Judith and Miriam is a bit too much even from a fellow Hebrew-name lover like myself, it sounds like a sibset from a chassidic family. And just Ruth and Naomi is definitely weird, now that I've remebered the connection.
This message was edited 1/17/2008, 8:34 AM
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I think it would be too much. I really like Naomi and I can see the appeal of Ruth (it is strong, has a great meaning and great history, all things I value in a name) but I think it is a very harsh name. I also think Ruth and Judith are too similar as sisters. Miriam Ruth would be a cute combo though
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I really love Naomi, but I don't like Ruth at all - the sound of it just grates on me, though I can't really explain why. Naomi and Miriam sound good together, but I don't really like Judith either - it sounds quite heavy to me, and not very attractive.
Anyway, since I'm bagging Ruth and Judith here, I guess I should offer you a few alternatives! How about Naomi, Miriam, Ivy and Audrey? Naomi, Miriam, Paloma and Josephine (actually, Paloma doesn't fit that well into the sibset, but I still want to keep it there :-) )? Naomi, Miriam, Esther and Mercedes "Sadie" or "Merry" or "Desi"...? Naomi, Miriam, Ada and Gabrielle, or Thora, or Yvonne, or Sally, or Delphine, or Jillian, or Eve...I hope one of them is to your taste :-)
Anyway, since I'm bagging Ruth and Judith here, I guess I should offer you a few alternatives! How about Naomi, Miriam, Ivy and Audrey? Naomi, Miriam, Paloma and Josephine (actually, Paloma doesn't fit that well into the sibset, but I still want to keep it there :-) )? Naomi, Miriam, Esther and Mercedes "Sadie" or "Merry" or "Desi"...? Naomi, Miriam, Ada and Gabrielle, or Thora, or Yvonne, or Sally, or Delphine, or Jillian, or Eve...I hope one of them is to your taste :-)
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I got the connection right away. i read your post and I instantly thought, "I hope Siri doesn't want to use those for sisters because that would be so themey"
At least you realize the potential connection. I would say that as far as themes go it could get a lot worse than Ruth and Naomi.
I think I might even be able to take it as long as they are not twin girls or two girls one born right after the other.
For example I wouldn't mind if it was:
boy
Ruth
girl
Naomi - or whatever combo as long as a child was between them and there was at least one other girl.
At least you realize the potential connection. I would say that as far as themes go it could get a lot worse than Ruth and Naomi.
I think I might even be able to take it as long as they are not twin girls or two girls one born right after the other.
For example I wouldn't mind if it was:
boy
Ruth
girl
Naomi - or whatever combo as long as a child was between them and there was at least one other girl.
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I like both of the pronounciations for Naomi. I think it's a very girly name.
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I would use not Ruth and Naomi in the same sibset. The story of Ruth and Naomi is too well known and too frequently quoted, imo, for this to be a usable sibset. On the other hand, it could be fun (for a few minutes) for a girl to be able to use "whither thou goest, I will go" in response to typical big sis questions like, "Why won't you leave me alone?" and "What are you doing in my room?" =)
I love Ruth and Naomi (nay-oh-mee) individually. Ruth isn't harsh at all, at least not to my ears. It's short and simple, yes, but I think the sound is very gentle. Sadly, I don't think it works with Judith. The matching oo and th sounds are too repetitive. Ruth and Miriam or Naomi, Miriam, and Judith all work as sibests, but as a foursome, they have problems.
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I love Ruth and Naomi (nay-oh-mee) individually. Ruth isn't harsh at all, at least not to my ears. It's short and simple, yes, but I think the sound is very gentle. Sadly, I don't think it works with Judith. The matching oo and th sounds are too repetitive. Ruth and Miriam or Naomi, Miriam, and Judith all work as sibests, but as a foursome, they have problems.
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This message was edited 1/16/2008, 7:21 PM
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I like Ruth and Naomi both--and maybe I'm just weird, but I've always been inclined to say nye-OH-mee, which I suppose is closest to your pronunciation. I don't think they're terrible together--after all, they're themey, but they're also a nice theme, IMHO. :) They're perfectly good Biblical characters, after all.
Ruth, Naomi, Judith, and Miriam don't sound too heavy together to me. I dig them.
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Ruth, Naomi, Judith, and Miriam don't sound too heavy together to me. I dig them.
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I generally say nye-OH-mee too - I used to think it was just the New Zealand accent, but I've heard of NZ girls named Naomi who pronounce their names nay-oh-mee too, so I'm not sure what it is. Regardless, I prefer the nye-OH-mee pron. myself.
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I think they would be too much together. I prefer Ruth to Naomi, as I find most people pronounce Naomi with a harsh nay- sound rather than the hebrew nah- which would grate on my nerves. I also really like the meaning of Ruth.
I think those as first names would be a bit much in a sibset, maybe more obscure hebrew names such as Reninah, Shifra, Eliora, or Iscah?
I think those as first names would be a bit much in a sibset, maybe more obscure hebrew names such as Reninah, Shifra, Eliora, or Iscah?
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Ruth, Naomi, Miriam, and Judith sounds like a nice sister-set. The only thing is Ruth ends the same as Judith. Ruth and Naomi as sisters is a a little odd, though. I love the name Ruth, BTW.
I've always pronounced Naomi "nye OH mee" and that's probably not correct. Your pronunciation is hard for me to say.
I've always pronounced Naomi "nye OH mee" and that's probably not correct. Your pronunciation is hard for me to say.
This message was edited 1/16/2008, 5:37 PM
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Ruth, Naomi, Miriam, and Judith? I love Judith and Ruth as a sibset it sounds too like your trying to hard with all four names. I would assume the parents were very strict Jewish people.
Judith and Ruth would be lovely sisters nix the other two.
Judith and Ruth would be lovely sisters nix the other two.
This message was edited 1/16/2008, 6:14 PM
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I'd say Ruth and Naomi would be too much.
I could see either grouped with Miriam and Judith as sisters, but not together. Personally, I prefer Ruth with those two, and also overall.
I like that you're using the Hebrew pronounciation. I agree, it sounds much better.
About Nina, I remember seeing Christine in a few of your combos before. If you end up using that, what about Christine NN Nina? It's not too far of a stretch.
And one last note, a funny coincidence about your question: My best friend's mom is a Naomi, and her sister is a Ruth. It's kinda funny that I actually know a sibset like that in real life.
I could see either grouped with Miriam and Judith as sisters, but not together. Personally, I prefer Ruth with those two, and also overall.
I like that you're using the Hebrew pronounciation. I agree, it sounds much better.
About Nina, I remember seeing Christine in a few of your combos before. If you end up using that, what about Christine NN Nina? It's not too far of a stretch.
And one last note, a funny coincidence about your question: My best friend's mom is a Naomi, and her sister is a Ruth. It's kinda funny that I actually know a sibset like that in real life.
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I always forget that it's pronounced nay-oh-me, and not ny-oh-me.
Anyway, Naomi on another person's child, I would love. It's fresh, (at least to me), but not 'out there'. I am not a Ruth fan, at all, it just doesn't bring up a great image for me. My mom used to go to school with a girl named 'Rude Ruth', who was nn. in her late teens with the name 'Ruined Ruth' for reasons I decided not to know ask about =)
So, I like Naomi, Miriam and Judith, but not Ruth. Shame about Nina, it's one of my favourite's as well (but it's my dad's sister's name, so I'll never get to use it either)
Anyway, Naomi on another person's child, I would love. It's fresh, (at least to me), but not 'out there'. I am not a Ruth fan, at all, it just doesn't bring up a great image for me. My mom used to go to school with a girl named 'Rude Ruth', who was nn. in her late teens with the name 'Ruined Ruth' for reasons I decided not to know ask about =)
So, I like Naomi, Miriam and Judith, but not Ruth. Shame about Nina, it's one of my favourite's as well (but it's my dad's sister's name, so I'll never get to use it either)
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I just wrote another message about this above, but I also pronounce it nye-oh-me. I don't personally think its incorrect, I've heard it pronounced both ways.
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I suppose most well educated people will get the biblical connection of the two names - personally I didn't though :) So I don't mind them as a sibset at all.
However I don't like Ruth as a name, don't like the sound. While Naomi is extremely feminine and soft, Ruth just looks plain and boring next to it. imho.
Where I live Naomi is always pronounced Nah-oh-mee - and I don't like the nay-oh-mee pronunciation either.
However I don't like Ruth as a name, don't like the sound. While Naomi is extremely feminine and soft, Ruth just looks plain and boring next to it. imho.
Where I live Naomi is always pronounced Nah-oh-mee - and I don't like the nay-oh-mee pronunciation either.
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I got the connection at once, having grown up Protestant. Went to church camp in the summer. Fairly Bible-literate.
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Not well-educated
But religious - Christian or Jewish. And if a person is Christian they would have to be from a bible-based church, I think. Education has nothing to do with knowing the connection between Ruth and Naomi, but religion does. I have a broad background in the bible, so I'm going to get the connections.
But religious - Christian or Jewish. And if a person is Christian they would have to be from a bible-based church, I think. Education has nothing to do with knowing the connection between Ruth and Naomi, but religion does. I have a broad background in the bible, so I'm going to get the connections.
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Sorry, I just thought that was an interesting comment. Sure someone familiar with the Bible would know it, but I think generally it would also be the well educated. Well educated to me means they have a good knowledge of all areas and that would include Christianity to me. The well educated people I know aren't necessarily Christian but would know the connection between Ruth and Naomi.
Maybe my experience is unusual *shrugs*
Sorry, I just thought that was an interesting comment. Sure someone familiar with the Bible would know it, but I think generally it would also be the well educated. Well educated to me means they have a good knowledge of all areas and that would include Christianity to me. The well educated people I know aren't necessarily Christian but would know the connection between Ruth and Naomi.
Maybe my experience is unusual *shrugs*
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Yes, but I don't want people to think they're dumb because they don't know it.
Plus, it depends, I think. It's maybe a mixture?
Plus, it depends, I think. It's maybe a mixture?
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I am well educated and I didn't get the connection lol.
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Would sisters Ruth and Naomi be too much? No I don't. I think they sound great together.
What about sisters Ruth, Naomi, Miriam, and Judith? Judith seems to really stand out in these four. Ruth, Naomi and Miriam all sound fine together.
The pronunciation nah-oh-me sounds very, very strange to me. Nay-oh-me is how my little one is pronounced.
What about sisters Ruth, Naomi, Miriam, and Judith? Judith seems to really stand out in these four. Ruth, Naomi and Miriam all sound fine together.
The pronunciation nah-oh-me sounds very, very strange to me. Nay-oh-me is how my little one is pronounced.
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If I met a sibset of Ruth and Naomi, I would think their parents were very, very religious (probably Jewish). Also, I'd be a little creeped out because Naomi is Ruth's mother-in-law in the Bible (I'm not religious at all and I still know that). I'd say yes, it is too much as a sibset.
I hate to say it but you would never, ever get Naomi said nah-oh-mee. I love the name, though.
I hate to say it but you would never, ever get Naomi said nah-oh-mee. I love the name, though.
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I like Naomi a lot, though I've never heard it pronounced the way you want to say it. In any area where there are few or no Jewish/Hebrew people, Nah-Oh-Mee is going to seem very pretentious, especially if the Naomi in question is also non-Jewish/Hebrew herself. I think I heard once that Nah-Oh-Mee is also a Japanese name, but I can't remember where I heard it.
Ruth I don't like, because it just sounds like a croup-cough or dog-bark, and also I don't care much for the th sound. If I had to use it at all, it would be in mn slot.
Ruth and Naomi as sisters is too much. It would be like brothers named Ernie and Bert, or siblings named Bonnie and Clyde.
Also, I think Ruth and Judith are too similar in sound to be in the same sibset.
Naomi and Miriam would go nicely.
Could Nina be an informal nn for Naomi?
Ruth I don't like, because it just sounds like a croup-cough or dog-bark, and also I don't care much for the th sound. If I had to use it at all, it would be in mn slot.
Ruth and Naomi as sisters is too much. It would be like brothers named Ernie and Bert, or siblings named Bonnie and Clyde.
Also, I think Ruth and Judith are too similar in sound to be in the same sibset.
Naomi and Miriam would go nicely.
Could Nina be an informal nn for Naomi?
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I think I heard once that Nah-Oh-Mee is also a Japanese name, but I can't remember where I heard it.
Naomi is a Japanese name, but if I recall correctly, it sounds slightly different.
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Naomi is a Japanese name, but if I recall correctly, it sounds slightly different.
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Naomi as a Japenese name is the database
I stated that I could stand the former (the nay-oh-me) pronunciation from others, though I would use nah-oh-me.
Thanks - I was wondering if anyone else caught the biblical connection between the names. So I'll stick with Naomi, Judith and Miriam.
As for a nickname for Naomi: I would use Nomi, as Nina is too contrived for me. :-D
I stated that I could stand the former (the nay-oh-me) pronunciation from others, though I would use nah-oh-me.
Thanks - I was wondering if anyone else caught the biblical connection between the names. So I'll stick with Naomi, Judith and Miriam.
As for a nickname for Naomi: I would use Nomi, as Nina is too contrived for me. :-D
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I love the names Ruth Naomi Miriam and Judith I think they make a great sibling set
I love these names for many reasons
I love the history behind the names the stories in the bible show strong inspirational woman
I love the sound of the names especially Judith and Naomi
I have known people with these names people who for one reason or another have made an impression on me
I love these names for many reasons
I love the history behind the names the stories in the bible show strong inspirational woman
I love the sound of the names especially Judith and Naomi
I have known people with these names people who for one reason or another have made an impression on me
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