[Opinions] Re: Leni?
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Riefenstahl - you may say she was a gifted filmmaker, but I feel no sympathy for her and if I saw a child named Leni, I would firstly think that her parents wanted to honour her. You know, there are names that will be always associated with certain persons and you can't get over it - Wolfgang Amadeus, Adolf, Marlene...
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Leni Riefenstahl, wasn't proud of the propaganda aspect of her life, but in the circumstances I don't think many people would have done much different, she was between a rock and hard place.
Post War however, she did a lot of magnificent photography work in Africa, and captured many tribal practices on film that have now been wiped out through warfare in Sudan. So although she did a bad thing making Hitler films etc, she did do a great service to those African peoples whose traditions she captured on film. Although it doesn't excuse or explain her war activites, I like to think it's something on her path to redemption.
I love the name Leni, I'd use it.
Post War however, she did a lot of magnificent photography work in Africa, and captured many tribal practices on film that have now been wiped out through warfare in Sudan. So although she did a bad thing making Hitler films etc, she did do a great service to those African peoples whose traditions she captured on film. Although it doesn't excuse or explain her war activites, I like to think it's something on her path to redemption.
I love the name Leni, I'd use it.
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here in Germany Wolfgang is such a common name (at least for older people) so hearing that it is first associated with Wolfgang Amadeus is kind of funny. Same for Marlene. I know Marlene Dietrich but I don't think the name is that attached to her. Many people don't even know her. I know Leni Riefenstahl but I think that you need to use a name to disattach it from a negative connection. I would also use let's say Lilith or Salome. When people see it on a child they immediately forget the first association with the "famous" person. The only exception is Adolf. I think it would be difficult not to think of the person.
here in Germany Wolfgang is such a common name (at least for older people) so hearing that it is first associated with Wolfgang Amadeus is kind of funny. Same for Marlene. I know Marlene Dietrich but I don't think the name is that attached to her. Many people don't even know her. I know Leni Riefenstahl but I think that you need to use a name to disattach it from a negative connection. I would also use let's say Lilith or Salome. When people see it on a child they immediately forget the first association with the "famous" person. The only exception is Adolf. I think it would be difficult not to think of the person.
Yep, meeting someone (especially someone nice) with "strong namesaked" name is the best way to get over the associations. Actually, I once wrote a story, where a shy and nice character was named Adolf. I just wanted to get over the association. :D
Funny you mentioned Wolfgang! Being an ex-student of German school and having many connections to Germany and German people (my bf is German), I know many people named Wolfgang - my old music teacher, a book seller who lives in St. Petersburg, a pianist and a doctor from Berlin, at least. As far as I remember, the current director of the school I mentioned is Wolfgang, too.
But usually the first impression of all non-German people is very simple: Wolfgang=Mozart.
Funny you mentioned Wolfgang! Being an ex-student of German school and having many connections to Germany and German people (my bf is German), I know many people named Wolfgang - my old music teacher, a book seller who lives in St. Petersburg, a pianist and a doctor from Berlin, at least. As far as I remember, the current director of the school I mentioned is Wolfgang, too.
But usually the first impression of all non-German people is very simple: Wolfgang=Mozart.