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Help[Opinions] Eleanor or Elizabeth?
Which would you choose? You may only choose the spelling Eleanor or the spelling Elizabeth. :)
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Eleanor!
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Eleanor
Because Elizabeth is ancient religious & generic, Eleanor is medieval & basically made up.
Because Elizabeth is ancient religious & generic, Eleanor is medieval & basically made up.
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Eleanor
I love Elizabeth, but I can't use it as a first name.
I love Elizabeth, but I can't use it as a first name.
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...but Ella is also a common diminutive for Elizabeth--my favorite, in fact.
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I would definitely not say that it's a common diminutive for Elizabeth. Ella is common on its own. I actually don't like Ella, Ellie, Elle or Lily as nicknames for Elizabeth. I just don't see how you get Lily out of Elizabeth and Ella, Elle and Ellie just aren't related to Elizabeth in any way so I find it extremely odd to use them as nicknames. I wouldn't use Ella as a nickname for Eleanor either, now that I think about it. I'd just name her Ella if I wanted to call her that. It's not like it's nickname-ish or anything. To me using Ella as a nn for Elizabeth is like using Anna as a nickname for Andrea or Angela or something. To each their own :)
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How are Ellie and Ella and Elle not related to Elizabeth? Elizabeth starts with El, it's right there. Ella's pretty nicknamey, it has no separate etymology other than a nickname. I know people use it as a full name now but... it comes from names like Elizabeth and Eleanor...
Lily isn't so much of a stretch. e-LI-zabeth, and then you get kind of stuck on the Li- sound.
Lily isn't so much of a stretch. e-LI-zabeth, and then you get kind of stuck on the Li- sound.
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Ella to me is a nickname for Eleanor, not for Elizabeth. This is just my opinion. I dislike Elizabeth nn Ella just as I'd dislike Elvira nn Ella or Elysia nn Ella or something. It just seems far fetched. I also can't stand stuff like Persephone nn Poppy or Aviva nn Ava. They just don't make sense to me and I think they don't to most people. After all Ella is extremely common on its own but I've never met an Elizabeth who was nicknamed Ella. I've met one Eleanor nn Ella. It might have worked centuries ago but I think nowadays people would be confused.
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Here is a famous example of an Elizabeth/Elisabeth who was called Ella: Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of Russia, granddaughter of Queen Victoria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Feodorovna
This example is also my inspiration for appreciating Elizabeth nn Ella.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Feodorovna
This example is also my inspiration for appreciating Elizabeth nn Ella.
This message was edited 2/28/2012, 9:51 PM
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Yeah that might have worked back then. I don't know but nowadays there are so many Ellas around that people would probably find it confusing. Just my opinion, though. If you love it you should definitely use it. Ella and Elizabeth are lovely and you get to use them both :)
edited for typo
edited for typo
This message was edited 2/28/2012, 9:58 PM
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I respectfully disagree with you. I think having a daughter called Ella whose name was Elizabeth would not be problematic or awkward in the least. I think it has a subtle charm and grace which one seldom encounters these days, but in no way is it outmoded.
This message was edited 2/28/2012, 10:24 PM
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easily Eleanor
It started to really grow on me a few months ago. I've always liked it, but I guess I'm in a particularly strong Eleanor phase now. I also feel like it's more distinctive than Elizabeth- Elizabeth is a timeless classic, but I have met so many of them (almost always going by Liz) that it's lost a lot of its charm for me. I wouldn't even stop and blink at an Elizabeth, but an Eleanor would make me pause and take note.
It started to really grow on me a few months ago. I've always liked it, but I guess I'm in a particularly strong Eleanor phase now. I also feel like it's more distinctive than Elizabeth- Elizabeth is a timeless classic, but I have met so many of them (almost always going by Liz) that it's lost a lot of its charm for me. I wouldn't even stop and blink at an Elizabeth, but an Eleanor would make me pause and take note.
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CRAP. I love Elinor and Elisabeth so those would be my preferred spellings. I think I'd end up going with Elizabeth.
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Definitely Elizabeth. I do really like Eleanor... but I love Elizabeth so much more.
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I think I'd go for Elizabeth. It seems more "you," too, it kind of flouts the geek-chicness of Eleanor. Although I guess that might be so hipster that it starts to collapse in on itself.
I like Eleanor, or I used to before I saw it so often on BTN that all the poetry dripped out of it. That's the thing about these names with all these L's and N's and soft E sounds, these imaginary welsh princess names - they don't have much stamina. Elizabeth has so many sounds and is connected to the ground in so many different ways. And there's Liz! which I really like! There's also every other nickname out there in the world. unlike with Eleanor you're not limited to geek-chic nicknames (Ellie, Ella, Nora, Nor). You can have 70's-romantisch Liz! Etc!
I like Eleanor, or I used to before I saw it so often on BTN that all the poetry dripped out of it. That's the thing about these names with all these L's and N's and soft E sounds, these imaginary welsh princess names - they don't have much stamina. Elizabeth has so many sounds and is connected to the ground in so many different ways. And there's Liz! which I really like! There's also every other nickname out there in the world. unlike with Eleanor you're not limited to geek-chic nicknames (Ellie, Ella, Nora, Nor). You can have 70's-romantisch Liz! Etc!
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Elizabeth
I like the nickname options better.
I like the nickname options better.
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Eleanor
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Eleanor
Elizabeth has never been a name I cared much for. Not sure why, I guess I just find it boring. I know a bunch of them (most of them go by Liz, one goes by Beth... don't think I knew anyone who went by anything else, including the full thing), and then I know even more people who have it as a middle name.
Eleanor isn't much more interesting to me, but I used to like it quite a bit, so it ranks higher.
Plus I like the Eleanor nicknames better.
Elizabeth has never been a name I cared much for. Not sure why, I guess I just find it boring. I know a bunch of them (most of them go by Liz, one goes by Beth... don't think I knew anyone who went by anything else, including the full thing), and then I know even more people who have it as a middle name.
Eleanor isn't much more interesting to me, but I used to like it quite a bit, so it ranks higher.
Plus I like the Eleanor nicknames better.
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Elizabeth
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I love them both...
A whole lot. As in, I'd use either in a heartbeat if my SO loved one of them.
Both are timeless and classy, have great histories and a myriad of nicknames to pick from. Perfection.
A whole lot. As in, I'd use either in a heartbeat if my SO loved one of them.
Both are timeless and classy, have great histories and a myriad of nicknames to pick from. Perfection.
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I've used Elizabeth as a mn ... it is beautiful and we chose it for family reasons. But Eleanor is also beautiful and it's probably also a family name - there are certainly a lot of Nellies lurking in the branches of the family tree.
Can I have a dead heat, please?
Can I have a dead heat, please?
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Eleanor
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Elizabeth by a long shot. I realize that Eleanor sometimes seems like a BtN darling, but it feels quite old and frumpy to me.
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Elizabeth
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I like both but I would go for Eleanor because I love the nickname Nora.
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Elizabeth by far! I love the name (Elisabeth too). Eleanor is nmsaa.
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Eleanor
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I love them both and have used Eleanor. I'd use Elizabeth too.
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Hmm, tough choice as I like them both....but I think I like Elizabeth just a smidge more.
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Most certainly Eleanor. I love it. Elizabeth is pretty and offers a variety of nickname options, but I find Eleanor more intriguing. I have met quite a few Elizabeths, but not many Eleanors.
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Elizabeth.
Love the name, love the nickname options. Eleanor will always just seem musty to me.
Love the name, love the nickname options. Eleanor will always just seem musty to me.
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Elizabeth... I guess
Though I don't find either particularly interesting, I already have an Aunt Eleanor, and my family doesn't say the name properly anyways (like "Ellener"). ELLA-norr is so much prettier. Gotta have that norrrrr.
Actually if I COULD mess with spelling, Ellanore would be pretty neat. It makes me think of a deep, dark well.
Plus Elizabeth could be Bette which I find really kapow-sexy.
Though I don't find either particularly interesting, I already have an Aunt Eleanor, and my family doesn't say the name properly anyways (like "Ellener"). ELLA-norr is so much prettier. Gotta have that norrrrr.
Actually if I COULD mess with spelling, Ellanore would be pretty neat. It makes me think of a deep, dark well.
Plus Elizabeth could be Bette which I find really kapow-sexy.
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Elizabeth.
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Eleanor. Both are good, but Elizabeth is more overused and Eleanor is more mature and sort of noble-sounding to me (only with a NOR at the end though. Some accents pronounce it like "nurr", and in that case I'd choose Elizabeth.)
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Elizabeth
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Elizabeth
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Elizabeth,
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Elizabeth
I love both names, but I would be more likely to use Elizabeth because it and related forms appear often in my family tree.
I love both names, but I would be more likely to use Elizabeth because it and related forms appear often in my family tree.
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Elizabeth
After my grandmother. Plus I love the nicknames Liz, Lizzie, Betsy, Beth, Lizbeth.
After my grandmother. Plus I love the nicknames Liz, Lizzie, Betsy, Beth, Lizbeth.
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Elizabeth
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Elizabeth definitely.
:)
:)
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Elizabeth+
That's the spelling I like.
That's the spelling I like.
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I've debated these two myself (Eleanor Sophia vs. Elizabeth Eve) and I've come to the conclusion that while Elizabeth is a classic that never goes out of style, that's the exact reason why I've never used it even as a mn. I've just known so many with this name in either the fn or mn spot. I'd go with Eleanor.
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Elizabeth :)
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