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Help[Opinions] Re: Thoughts on a nickname for my still-regretful name choice....
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Oh. Poor you. I feel your pain.
My two cents on nns: Formal names are the place to show education / meaning / honor, etc. They are like wearing your best outfit to a job interview. It's how you present yourself to the outside world.
Nns, on the other hand, are the place to express creativity, affection, whimsy. They are like the comfy pair of jeans you slip into when you come home from the interview. You don't need to dress up around those at home who already love and admire you. It's the same with nns used by loved ones.
So Rosalie, nn Flower Pot, makes sense to me. Zalia from Rosalie is pretty tame in my world. :-D
I've always loved the French name / nn Zelie ("ZAY-lee," with an accent going up over the first "e"). You might like that one / spelling too. [My research has unearthed many sources for Zelie, the most likely one from the French word for Azalea. So it's not that far off from Zalia.]
Other possible nns from Rosalie:
Rosa (an surprisingly underappreciated classic)
Rosaleen ("My Dark Rosaleen" is a poem about Ireland)
Ro
Ree (Did you ever see "Winter's Bone" with Jennifer Lawrence?)
Lee (clean, clear and bright)
Sally
R.V. (just kidding)
V. / Vee
Lisa
Lior / Liora (rearranging some of the letters in Rosalie)
My two cents on nns: Formal names are the place to show education / meaning / honor, etc. They are like wearing your best outfit to a job interview. It's how you present yourself to the outside world.
Nns, on the other hand, are the place to express creativity, affection, whimsy. They are like the comfy pair of jeans you slip into when you come home from the interview. You don't need to dress up around those at home who already love and admire you. It's the same with nns used by loved ones.
So Rosalie, nn Flower Pot, makes sense to me. Zalia from Rosalie is pretty tame in my world. :-D
I've always loved the French name / nn Zelie ("ZAY-lee," with an accent going up over the first "e"). You might like that one / spelling too. [My research has unearthed many sources for Zelie, the most likely one from the French word for Azalea. So it's not that far off from Zalia.]
Other possible nns from Rosalie:
Rosa (an surprisingly underappreciated classic)
Rosaleen ("My Dark Rosaleen" is a poem about Ireland)
Ro
Ree (Did you ever see "Winter's Bone" with Jennifer Lawrence?)
Lee (clean, clear and bright)
Sally
R.V. (just kidding)
V. / Vee
Lisa
Lior / Liora (rearranging some of the letters in Rosalie)
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I thought of R.V. too! I actually kinda like it
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Quote:So Rosalie, nn Flower Pot, makes sense to me. Zalia from Rosalie is pretty tame in my world. :-D
LOL!!! Flower pot does have a ring to it....!
I find Zelie interesting but don't want to make the same mistake by gravitating towards another name that ends in EE (though most nicknames do, it's what I don't like about the whole vibe of the name Rosalie). So even though Zelie sounds nice I am worried I'd then regret another name! It does work better as a nickname for Rosalie as opposed to Zalia which would be more appropriate for Rozalia. Then again, as you pointed out nicknames aren't necessarily about appropriateness-and may be anything but.
Of your suggestions I like Liora, but it seems too distant a derivative for my dh to go for that (I imagine he'll be restrictive with even the pet name) and my niece is named Lorelei, already similar to Rosalie in flow and perhaps too similar Liora?
I REALLY appreciate your opinion on nicknames and may try to adopt that-I've always been rather anti-nickname as I like for the child to wear the name given to him/her, but your approach makes a lot of sense for someone grasping at straws now.
I mentioned Zalia to my mother who said, rather dismissively, well I guess, but HER NAME, Rosalie is so pretty.
Again, this may be PPD/a passing phase for me, as I seem to go in and out of liking the name Rosalie right now, but am trying to find something to call her other than baby while I get through this period of regret and having to deal with this "compromise," or whatever it is.
LOL!!! Flower pot does have a ring to it....!
I find Zelie interesting but don't want to make the same mistake by gravitating towards another name that ends in EE (though most nicknames do, it's what I don't like about the whole vibe of the name Rosalie). So even though Zelie sounds nice I am worried I'd then regret another name! It does work better as a nickname for Rosalie as opposed to Zalia which would be more appropriate for Rozalia. Then again, as you pointed out nicknames aren't necessarily about appropriateness-and may be anything but.
Of your suggestions I like Liora, but it seems too distant a derivative for my dh to go for that (I imagine he'll be restrictive with even the pet name) and my niece is named Lorelei, already similar to Rosalie in flow and perhaps too similar Liora?
I REALLY appreciate your opinion on nicknames and may try to adopt that-I've always been rather anti-nickname as I like for the child to wear the name given to him/her, but your approach makes a lot of sense for someone grasping at straws now.
I mentioned Zalia to my mother who said, rather dismissively, well I guess, but HER NAME, Rosalie is so pretty.
Again, this may be PPD/a passing phase for me, as I seem to go in and out of liking the name Rosalie right now, but am trying to find something to call her other than baby while I get through this period of regret and having to deal with this "compromise," or whatever it is.
This message was edited 4/10/2012, 12:00 PM
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One more angle (OK, two)
My dh and I don't have any children. But there was a time when it might be possible and so we threw a few names around.
Some of his choices were not my style at all, nor were some of the family honoring names from his side. At the time I told myself that even if I didn't love the name I loved my dh. Giving him the opportunity to use a name he loved pleased me just as much as if I had free reign.
Well, that's what I told myself at the time. I'm not sure I could have lived up to it. But it might help you in getting used to the name your dh loves (or at least the only one he could live with).
I know, I know. Easy for me to say. I just thought it might help to look at the name from a different angle. For what it's worth, I think she'll thank you one day for such a pretty name. :-)
Oh, also. Remind yourself that French names ending in an "ee" sound aren't nns. Marie is the French form of Maria, Valerie for Valeria, Sophie for Sophia, etc. [In poetry and sounds you can hear a slight "uh" sound at the end, like the vowel sound in good/wood/hood.] If the French wish to make a nn they are more likely to use just an "i" on the end, like Mimi, Gigi, etc. You probably already know that. Again, I'm just trying to find ways to perhaps see Rosalie in a more dignified, formal light.
Glad you liked Flower Pot. :-P
My dh and I don't have any children. But there was a time when it might be possible and so we threw a few names around.
Some of his choices were not my style at all, nor were some of the family honoring names from his side. At the time I told myself that even if I didn't love the name I loved my dh. Giving him the opportunity to use a name he loved pleased me just as much as if I had free reign.
Well, that's what I told myself at the time. I'm not sure I could have lived up to it. But it might help you in getting used to the name your dh loves (or at least the only one he could live with).
I know, I know. Easy for me to say. I just thought it might help to look at the name from a different angle. For what it's worth, I think she'll thank you one day for such a pretty name. :-)
Oh, also. Remind yourself that French names ending in an "ee" sound aren't nns. Marie is the French form of Maria, Valerie for Valeria, Sophie for Sophia, etc. [In poetry and sounds you can hear a slight "uh" sound at the end, like the vowel sound in good/wood/hood.] If the French wish to make a nn they are more likely to use just an "i" on the end, like Mimi, Gigi, etc. You probably already know that. Again, I'm just trying to find ways to perhaps see Rosalie in a more dignified, formal light.
Glad you liked Flower Pot. :-P
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Bear wrote:But it might help you in getting used to the name your dh loves (or at least the only one he could live with).
yes, And I think if he weren't so seemingly belligerent about it I'd feel differently, but the interaction between us regarding this name thing has been so unpleasant (even before the name was chosen) as I am sure you can glean from my posts that there is a bit of sourness about the compromise. Perhaps I can rise to the occasion and just swallow it, but as you can see I am really having trouble with that right now. I do need to find a way to soldier on though (with the name) and telling myself this WAS the compromise and he likes it a lot DOES help.
The french ending reminder does indeed assist me in tolerating it too, so I appreciate the angle. I still wonder if I hadn't heard 5 people now call her RosaLEE (especially my MIL with that southern twang) if this issue would have even arisen.
yes, And I think if he weren't so seemingly belligerent about it I'd feel differently, but the interaction between us regarding this name thing has been so unpleasant (even before the name was chosen) as I am sure you can glean from my posts that there is a bit of sourness about the compromise. Perhaps I can rise to the occasion and just swallow it, but as you can see I am really having trouble with that right now. I do need to find a way to soldier on though (with the name) and telling myself this WAS the compromise and he likes it a lot DOES help.
The french ending reminder does indeed assist me in tolerating it too, so I appreciate the angle. I still wonder if I hadn't heard 5 people now call her RosaLEE (especially my MIL with that southern twang) if this issue would have even arisen.
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Oh, sorry. I missed the part about his attitude. Hmmm. Bummer, especially for a namenerd. Well, I'm still sure *she* will thank you. And if she doesn't she has her father to complain to. :-D See? Lemonade!
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LOL! I think she'll like her name, I imagine any little girl would (except my eldest DD, of course!)
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Well, you're sitting pretty either way. Win-win!
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I wish I lived in France right now-that would help! OK I really need to convince myself away from the nicknamey/cutesie vibe.
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Hi Lily, Itt was rather far down on my list (Rosalie): I liked it but wasn't in love with it, and he liked NONE of my other, preferred names. I'd say Thalia was at a point of a tie for preferences with me- I liked that Thalia ended in A but he was just OK with it and preferred Rosalie, and I could not decide. I decided on Rosalie at the hospital because when we told the woman at the records office that we were debating which of these two names to give her (the only two names on my list that he even liked) she said, what? I thought you said failure." We had the option to leave the hospital with her nameless and come back in two weeks with a decision. Then my DH said he wanted to make the decision then and there as opposed to waiting, as waiting wouldn't get us anywhere. I imagine her negative comment about Thalia left a bad taste in my mouth and I went with Rosalie. I guess I viewed both names as compromises as they were not my first choices, and he didn't offer any. Hope that makes sense.
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