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Help[Opinions] Re: people, this is a troll (m)
in reply to a message by RoxStar
I don't know that it's so much a troll as someone who found his or (probably) her way onto the site, saw the comments about Poppy, doesn't understand how the site works, doesn't realize she could leave a comment of her own, finds her way onto the Ops board, and leaves the comment here. It's happened before, and I've noticed that almost always the person joined the site on the very day that they leave the comment here on the Ops board. What she said is no worse than many of the comments under the names. If it had been posted in the comments, it would not be noticed by as many as soon and probably wouldn't be replied to at all. So, if someone doesn't want to take the time to figure out how they can leave a comment of their own, proceeds to use the site incorrectly, and then is rude and immature, I feel justified in leaving what I consider an appropriate response.
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It was a weird comment anyway because Courtney was a really popular name in Britain in the 90s, up to 17 at one point and only left the top 100 a few years ago, so I doubt it's perceived as an American name by most people.
It's true Britney never caught on but I don't think people here would use the phrase "trailer trash" to describe it. That's an American phrase anyway. Maybe the poster is American, not that I care particularly!
I assumed the poster was just trolling but I just wanted to add that about Courtney.
It's true Britney never caught on but I don't think people here would use the phrase "trailer trash" to describe it. That's an American phrase anyway. Maybe the poster is American, not that I care particularly!
I assumed the poster was just trolling but I just wanted to add that about Courtney.
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If the poster is an American wanting to give the impression that she's British, but giving herself away by implying that Courtney is considered an American name and using a phrase that isn't used in Britain, then that does put her more in the troll category.
Considering what you've said, I now think it likely she is an American.
Considering what you've said, I now think it likely she is an American.
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Courtney seems to have caught on in UK just as it was sort of falling out of fashion here.
And while Brittany started out as a fairly upscale name, it did rather quickly acquire a "trailer trash" vibe, which may or may not have had something to do with Britney Spears. But Courtney has, at least to me, carried a definite upper-class feel to it; all kinds of people are named Courtney, mind you, just as all types are named Brittany, but Courtney started out as a yuppie sort of name and while it gained a wider appeal, it never sank to the level that Brittany did.
I like both names though, and definitely like them more than Poppy.
And while Brittany started out as a fairly upscale name, it did rather quickly acquire a "trailer trash" vibe, which may or may not have had something to do with Britney Spears. But Courtney has, at least to me, carried a definite upper-class feel to it; all kinds of people are named Courtney, mind you, just as all types are named Brittany, but Courtney started out as a yuppie sort of name and while it gained a wider appeal, it never sank to the level that Brittany did.
I like both names though, and definitely like them more than Poppy.
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I actually like Brittany but not Courtney. Something about the first syllable of Courtney bugs me. I've definitely never considered Courtney "low-class", though.
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What doesn't help it for me is that it was a tradition in my mother's family to call the grandfathers Pop or Poppy. My grandfather was called Pop by his grandchildren, and his father was called Poppy Moore (his last name) by his grandchildren and great-grandchildren, sometimes shortened to just Poppy. Poppy Moore died when I was four, and I have only one memory of him, but I still heard him referred to enough that I associate Poppy with a very elderly great-grandfather.
I really don't think I'd like Poppy anyway, it's just not an attractive sound at all. I'm really astonished that it's popular in England.
I really don't think I'd like Poppy anyway, it's just not an attractive sound at all. I'm really astonished that it's popular in England.
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What would you say instead of "trailer trash"? "Chav/Chavvy"?
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Yes a chav is someone who is roughly the British equivalent of trailer trash. Chav / chavvy are terms you'd use to be rude about someone who is lower class. It's not nice, but I do sometimes use it, depending on who I'm talking about and to.
To add to Rox Star's post, although Courtney might have an upper-class vibe in the US, surnames as first names don't here, so Courtney, which probably became popular after Courtney Cox and Courtney Love became famous could be seen as lower-class / chavvy here. I don't know any personally, but the kind of people I see on TV or know of who have named their kids that, do fall into that stereotype.
To add to Rox Star's post, although Courtney might have an upper-class vibe in the US, surnames as first names don't here, so Courtney, which probably became popular after Courtney Cox and Courtney Love became famous could be seen as lower-class / chavvy here. I don't know any personally, but the kind of people I see on TV or know of who have named their kids that, do fall into that stereotype.
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Back in 1975, I began babysitting for a couple who had at that time, two daughters, one three years old when I began babysitting for them and one seven months old. The seven-month-old was named Courtney. It wasn't such a common name then, just beginning to be popular. This couple was definitely upper-class, the husband was a stockbroker in New York and they could afford for the wife to be a stay-at-home mother. They had enough disposable income that they could afford to pay me to babysit every Friday and Saturday night so they could socialize, every Sunday from May to October so they could play golf, and for a few hours every Tuesday and Thursday during the summer so the wife could run errands without her kids. Their house was admittedly not huge, during the time I was babysitting for them, but they did own it and it was located in one of the most desirable areas in the country, an upper-middle-class suburb of New York, one of the most expensive areas in the country to live. About three years after I started babysitting for them, they bought a much bigger house in a nearby town, one which was just as expensive to live in and just as desirable as my hometown.
So, yeah, that was them and they named their daughter Courtney when she was born in 1974. Makes me think that Courtney did start out upper-class.
I like how this stupid troll actually started a conversation!
So, yeah, that was them and they named their daughter Courtney when she was born in 1974. Makes me think that Courtney did start out upper-class.
I like how this stupid troll actually started a conversation!
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Yes, she tried very hard to rile everyone up, but she ended up sparking an interesting discussion on class and naming trends instead. Poor troll. Poor, poor troll. ;)
This message was edited 1/18/2014, 8:54 AM
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don't they call such people chavs?
:)
:)
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