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Help[Facts] Given Name Orgent
I encountered the given name Orgent recently.
I know the following facts:
The name bearer lives in Germany and has a German surname. He/She (I am not sure about the gender) bears an American-style middle initial. He/She was born in 1946.
The name is super-rare, it is not in the five volume work by Seibicke nor in the Handbook for registrars.
Does anyone has an idea of the origin and meaning of the given name Orgent?
--elbowin
I know the following facts:
The name bearer lives in Germany and has a German surname. He/She (I am not sure about the gender) bears an American-style middle initial. He/She was born in 1946.
The name is super-rare, it is not in the five volume work by Seibicke nor in the Handbook for registrars.
Does anyone has an idea of the origin and meaning of the given name Orgent?
--elbowin
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I agree with the previous comments that the name does not appear to be Germanic and as such is unlikely to be Germanic.
However, it is not entirely impossible that the name could be of Germanic origin, I suppose. For example, it might be worth noting that Germanic given names starting with Au- became O- over time. For this, compare Aurvandill vs. Orendel (doesn't look German, but it really is!) in the Submitted Names Database, but also names like Audamar vs. Otmar and Audovacar vs. Odovacar in the main database.
So, if the name is to be Germanic at all, its original form probably started with Au-. As such, it might be worth the try to look at names starting with Au- in all the reputable books on Germanic given names. Also see https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/AUR .
I took a look at Ernst Förstemann's Altdeutsches Namenbuch and the name element Aur- is listed under Aus- in his book. I didn't see Aurgent or Orgent there, but I did see the similar-looking Orgis. Another name listed there, Ausegunde, made me wonder if Orgent couldn't be a heavily corrupted form of what might originally have been Auregunde? If you think about how name elements like -swind transformed into (variant) forms like -senth over time, that might be somewhat possible. But that might be stretching it a little bit, I guess.
If all else fails (even the possibility of Orgent being of Albanian or Slavic origin, as was mentioned in one of the comments), then perhaps we should seriously start to consider the possibility that the name may have been completely invented by the parents of the bearer. Granted, the bearer would then have to be a very special case (considering Germany has pretty strict naming laws, which I imagine would have been even more strict in 1946, the year the bearer was born), but I guess it's not impossible. Especially if the parents were relatively well-off and had some influence locally.
However, it is not entirely impossible that the name could be of Germanic origin, I suppose. For example, it might be worth noting that Germanic given names starting with Au- became O- over time. For this, compare Aurvandill vs. Orendel (doesn't look German, but it really is!) in the Submitted Names Database, but also names like Audamar vs. Otmar and Audovacar vs. Odovacar in the main database.
So, if the name is to be Germanic at all, its original form probably started with Au-. As such, it might be worth the try to look at names starting with Au- in all the reputable books on Germanic given names. Also see https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/AUR .
I took a look at Ernst Förstemann's Altdeutsches Namenbuch and the name element Aur- is listed under Aus- in his book. I didn't see Aurgent or Orgent there, but I did see the similar-looking Orgis. Another name listed there, Ausegunde, made me wonder if Orgent couldn't be a heavily corrupted form of what might originally have been Auregunde? If you think about how name elements like -swind transformed into (variant) forms like -senth over time, that might be somewhat possible. But that might be stretching it a little bit, I guess.
If all else fails (even the possibility of Orgent being of Albanian or Slavic origin, as was mentioned in one of the comments), then perhaps we should seriously start to consider the possibility that the name may have been completely invented by the parents of the bearer. Granted, the bearer would then have to be a very special case (considering Germany has pretty strict naming laws, which I imagine would have been even more strict in 1946, the year the bearer was born), but I guess it's not impossible. Especially if the parents were relatively well-off and had some influence locally.
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Now I found the place named Orgent in France, with a—surprise!—Germanic etymology:
Orgent
Hameau de la commune de Coligny (Bresse, Ain), Fons d´Orgens et Orgent en 1425, nom d´origine burgonde qui dériverait d´un primitif *Arigundingos, « chez les Arigundingi », dérivé du nom propre Arigundus, masculin d´Arigunde, [Perrenot], du germanique *aran, « aigle », et *gunþiô, « combat ».
(from http://henrysuter.ch/glossaires/topoO0.html)
... but I don't know what this contributes to its use as a given name. BTW, #hameau# means "hamlet".
--elbowin
Orgent
Hameau de la commune de Coligny (Bresse, Ain), Fons d´Orgens et Orgent en 1425, nom d´origine burgonde qui dériverait d´un primitif *Arigundingos, « chez les Arigundingi », dérivé du nom propre Arigundus, masculin d´Arigunde, [Perrenot], du germanique *aran, « aigle », et *gunþiô, « combat ».
(from http://henrysuter.ch/glossaires/topoO0.html)
... but I don't know what this contributes to its use as a given name. BTW, #hameau# means "hamlet".
--elbowin
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The Franks were a Germanic tribe.
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I wasn't able to locate a place named Orgent in France, the closest I came up was https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgeans-Blanchefontaine in the department Doubs. Altho' the Franks were a Germanic tribe, this place name dos not sound Germanic to me (and it also resists tries to analyse it as a Germanic name), it is probably Latinate or even going back to Celtic (Gaulish).
I don't know anything about the family background of the namesake. As a given name, Orgent is exceptionally rare worldwide; maybe there is a Yugoslav or Albanian connection to that name.
I don't know anything about the family background of the namesake. As a given name, Orgent is exceptionally rare worldwide; maybe there is a Yugoslav or Albanian connection to that name.
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