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in reply to a message by Rachel Shaina
I guess they also don't care that she's not actually a son? I like the name, just not the Jr. It's misused because the middle names are different, yeah, but also - to me those "ranks" of names (Jr, Sr) are to distinguish among people of the same gender. If her mother were Alexis, I could see making her Alexis Jr.
If I were in her place, I'd insist on a familiar name that was different from my father (Alex? Allie?), and for those who aren't familiar but need to distinguish us, on Ms Alexis for me and Mr Alexis for him. Same deal if the mom and son were both Alexis.
I think she could also be Alexis Ohanian II. Well, if the middle name were the same, but assuming they don't care.
- mirfak
If I were in her place, I'd insist on a familiar name that was different from my father (Alex? Allie?), and for those who aren't familiar but need to distinguish us, on Ms Alexis for me and Mr Alexis for him. Same deal if the mom and son were both Alexis.
I think she could also be Alexis Ohanian II. Well, if the middle name were the same, but assuming they don't care.
- mirfak
This message was edited 9/13/2017, 11:42 AM
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the female Junior ...
Has been done, but not very much. It's not all that uncommon (or wasn't till several generations ago) for daughters to be named after their mothers, but they would usually just go by a nickname, and Jr. or II wasn't attached to their names.
However, Jesse Jackson has a daughter named Jackie Jr., (as well as a son named Jesse Jr.) and Dog the Bounty Hunter has a daughter named Lyssa Jr. And recently read a book about Bob Hope, and he mentions a character they had on his radio show back in the 1930's. Her name was Cobina, and she was named for a famous socialite of the time named Cobina Wright, Jr. (The real Cobina Wright Jr. sued the producers for defamation but it was apparently thrown out and they ended up on good terms.)
But I still think it's lame; I'm not all that wild about sticking Jr. or II onto boys either.
Has been done, but not very much. It's not all that uncommon (or wasn't till several generations ago) for daughters to be named after their mothers, but they would usually just go by a nickname, and Jr. or II wasn't attached to their names.
However, Jesse Jackson has a daughter named Jackie Jr., (as well as a son named Jesse Jr.) and Dog the Bounty Hunter has a daughter named Lyssa Jr. And recently read a book about Bob Hope, and he mentions a character they had on his radio show back in the 1930's. Her name was Cobina, and she was named for a famous socialite of the time named Cobina Wright, Jr. (The real Cobina Wright Jr. sued the producers for defamation but it was apparently thrown out and they ended up on good terms.)
But I still think it's lame; I'm not all that wild about sticking Jr. or II onto boys either.
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I think it's a nice feminist statement.
Also, I know a few Juniors with different middle names but who use the Jr/Sr thing- even if it isn't technically right.
I know the sex was a surprise for them (though they thought they were having a girl), and both he and she are very vocal feminists, so I wonder if they wanted to use Alexis regardless of gender after her Dad and they were like "Why would he be a Junior and not her?"
I think it's cool. I really like Olympia and I'm wondering their reasoning for using it...I know Serena and Venus are both Latin and not Greek but Olympia has a similar "feel" to her mother and Aunt's names.
Also, I know a few Juniors with different middle names but who use the Jr/Sr thing- even if it isn't technically right.
I know the sex was a surprise for them (though they thought they were having a girl), and both he and she are very vocal feminists, so I wonder if they wanted to use Alexis regardless of gender after her Dad and they were like "Why would he be a Junior and not her?"
I think it's cool. I really like Olympia and I'm wondering their reasoning for using it...I know Serena and Venus are both Latin and not Greek but Olympia has a similar "feel" to her mother and Aunt's names.
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Well, if they felt like it was unfeminist to not call her Jr, and/or they mean to try to redefine Jr/Sr as a genderless designation, that's alright with me. They're probably not the only people who think that way about it, so maybe it works. I'm not unfeminist but it's not something I'd do, because it has a little tension with my idea of feminism. For me, it doesn't feel like it can change Jr/Sr as normative male designations. When women adopt traditionally male-gendered affectations, to me it often just seems to affirm a sexist assumption - that only things associated with masculine roles can be normative, good, privileged, empowered, preferable, etc. I guess not all that much in this case since the Jr does have practical function.
Btw I like the combo with Olympia, too, it is very cool. And I agree it has a similar vibe to the other names.
Btw I like the combo with Olympia, too, it is very cool. And I agree it has a similar vibe to the other names.
This message was edited 9/14/2017, 12:51 AM
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A boy named Serena Williams Jr. would be a nice feminist statement ;).
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Agreed ;)
But they had a girl!
I'm don't think it's even close to a 'perfect' statement and nothing I would have done...just don't completely hate it even though I do dislike the name Alexis.
But they had a girl!
I'm don't think it's even close to a 'perfect' statement and nothing I would have done...just don't completely hate it even though I do dislike the name Alexis.
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