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[Opinions] Re: since you asked politely ..
Hey not that you asked but I just want to clarify that it is a competition for drag queens, most of whom are gay men when they aren’t in drag. Some of them are transgender in their daily lives, but transvestite is not the term that’s really used anymore by people in either community.I’m still having trouble finding a connection with Kimmy (and I’ve watched every season with the show) but we all have our associations I guess!
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Because I truly don't know: Is there a term used for someone who dresses up as the opposite gender as part of a schtick or as a character but does not actually identify as transgender? I thought transvestite was the term for this and had no idea it was considered offensive prior to reading this post. Cross-dresser?
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There isn’t a universal term as far as I know. I’d say the safest bet is drag artist/queen/king/performer. I use the term “cross-dressing” in my dissertation title but I wouldn’t use this generally, though I’m sure some drag artists do. I feel like there was at one time someone on the boards who performed as a drag king, so maybe they’ll pop up and answer your question better than I have.
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Akua TopazHere is a good article:https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/sexual-orientation-gender/trans-and-gender-nonconforming-identities/transgender-identity-terms-and-labels
It's confusing and it seems new but it really isn't. There are lots of historical examples (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cross-dressing), the big difference is that society is being far more openminded and discussing it. Gender eoles are also going through a significant change, similar to what happened in the '60s and '70s.

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Thanks for posting that article. The more you know!
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She is the person who used to perform as a drag king.

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Oh, I forgot about that.
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What about a man who is not gay, not transgender, but likes to dress as a woman for a sexual thrill? Is the word "transvestite" still offensive in that context?
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I think so? I found an article that talked about that.Honestly, I don't know. Eddie Izzard used to refer to himself as an executive transvestite, but now he uses transgender.I just avoid the word altogether because if the baggage it carries.
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Kim Chi?
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Probably, but I’m still surprised that a strong association between drag queens and the fairly common first name Kimmy would be drawn from one queen!
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This isn't a dig but a question:
Wasn't transvestite used in the past to identify a straight man who liked to dress up as a woman?
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