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not part of the query, but Billie
This is not party of the query, but I know a lady by the formal first name of Billie - and it is this name that she is usually called & known; it may be argued that I more know "of" her, but nevertheless I really like her name.
This is not party of the query, but I know a lady by the formal first name of Billie - and it is this name that she is usually called & known; it may be argued that I more know "of" her, but nevertheless I really like her name.
I might use the full name, or at least try. I slightly prefer Will to Bill. Bill is what my dad is called (as was his father) and thus has always been a "dad name" to me. Will sounds a bit younger and handsomer to me. Billy is cute, but sounds childish (my dad was called Billy when he was a child but changed to Bill when he got older). I've never cared for Willie. Liam is such a popular stand alone name right now that it is too overused.
The only William I know who's stayed William can best be described as 'as expletive that should be deleted'; to make it and him worse, he's sometimes known by his wife as Whim! But I can imagine that William could be used without a nn and be rather wonderful; I've just never seen it.
I love Will; Willie is anatomically impossible, thank goodness; Bill is almost as good as Will; Billy stays juvenile into his 90s; Liam fills me with horror.
I love Will; Willie is anatomically impossible, thank goodness; Bill is almost as good as Will; Billy stays juvenile into his 90s; Liam fills me with horror.
Love these nicknames - Nice!
I love these nicknames
Amil - Ahmil?? Amihl??
Mill - perhaps Milly / Millie
I love when the branches of two or more neighboring, yet distinct trees combine and provide one shade - one shadow.
Now Amil, Emil, Emile, (Emma?) (Emily??) are (kissing?) cousins--and the other "in-laws" or second cousins might be Millicent Mélisande--and all of his related pets.
I love these nicknames
Amil - Ahmil?? Amihl??
Mill - perhaps Milly / Millie
I love when the branches of two or more neighboring, yet distinct trees combine and provide one shade - one shadow.
Now Amil, Emil, Emile, (Emma?) (Emily??) are (kissing?) cousins--and the other "in-laws" or second cousins might be Millicent Mélisande--and all of his related pets.
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I'd call my William (if I had one) Wilkie. I'd be fine with him changing that to Will as he gets older.
I dislike Willie, mostly because I know people who refer to a penis as a 'willy' with young kids.
I don't mind Bill- I see the appeal but it seems dated to me still. I'm coming around to it more as I have lost two elderly uncles named (nicknamed) Bill in the past few years and I do think it sounds strong. I see it coming back soon.
Billy is cute. I'd be open to it being used if it suited. But I'd expect it to become Bill when he gets older. It is a pet hate of mine when men still go by childish nicknames- I don't know why and I'm sure I could delve into all sorts of ways that I have been socialized in regard to gender and I'm sure I'd agree with people's arguments that it isn't an "equal" view to have but I just don't like it. Like when men still go by Petey instead of Pete or Ricky instead of Rick or Mikey instead of Mike. I don't know why it bothers me so much. Billy and Willie both also fall into that strong dislike when they are used on adult men (unless it's around family because it was their childhood nickname). There are exceptions though to that but I can't think of many- I don't mind Paddy on any age for Patrick? I can't think of any more than that haha. Danny doesn't bother me as much as some others but I'd prefer an adult man go by Dan.
Liam seems forced as nickname these days for William. I know it is a diminutive and it can be a nickname but it has been used as a full name in Ireland especially for so long that I view it as basically the "Irish version of William".
I dislike Willie, mostly because I know people who refer to a penis as a 'willy' with young kids.
I don't mind Bill- I see the appeal but it seems dated to me still. I'm coming around to it more as I have lost two elderly uncles named (nicknamed) Bill in the past few years and I do think it sounds strong. I see it coming back soon.
Billy is cute. I'd be open to it being used if it suited. But I'd expect it to become Bill when he gets older. It is a pet hate of mine when men still go by childish nicknames- I don't know why and I'm sure I could delve into all sorts of ways that I have been socialized in regard to gender and I'm sure I'd agree with people's arguments that it isn't an "equal" view to have but I just don't like it. Like when men still go by Petey instead of Pete or Ricky instead of Rick or Mikey instead of Mike. I don't know why it bothers me so much. Billy and Willie both also fall into that strong dislike when they are used on adult men (unless it's around family because it was their childhood nickname). There are exceptions though to that but I can't think of many- I don't mind Paddy on any age for Patrick? I can't think of any more than that haha. Danny doesn't bother me as much as some others but I'd prefer an adult man go by Dan.
Liam seems forced as nickname these days for William. I know it is a diminutive and it can be a nickname but it has been used as a full name in Ireland especially for so long that I view it as basically the "Irish version of William".
I doubt there are that many grown men who actually go by Petey or Mikey. I've never even known any children to go by those.
In the US, y-nicknames for men tend to be somewhat dated except in the south and rural areas. I think some age well, like Charlie and Jimmy, but some don't, like Teddy and Timmy. Timmy, especially, is a stereotypical little-brat-with-an-angel-face kind of name.
You won't find a Paddy here in the US very often either. You will find a Pat, but not a young one. Come to think of it, I only ever met two Petes, and one of them had the last name Peterson and that was where it came from.
I once had to have an echocardiogram, and the technician doing it was named Pete. I remember my husband and me kind of giggling about it later because one of us said something like "Pete? Who's named Pete, anyway?"
In the US, y-nicknames for men tend to be somewhat dated except in the south and rural areas. I think some age well, like Charlie and Jimmy, but some don't, like Teddy and Timmy. Timmy, especially, is a stereotypical little-brat-with-an-angel-face kind of name.
You won't find a Paddy here in the US very often either. You will find a Pat, but not a young one. Come to think of it, I only ever met two Petes, and one of them had the last name Peterson and that was where it came from.
I once had to have an echocardiogram, and the technician doing it was named Pete. I remember my husband and me kind of giggling about it later because one of us said something like "Pete? Who's named Pete, anyway?"
I don’t mind Will.