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Help[Opinions] This is what Rachel Shaina is saying.
in reply to a message by Isaac
I have noticed, and others have left the board because of this, that any name that is stereotypically seen as black is either not like or someone has to point out that it is seen as a black name.
I posted up the sibling set of Carmichael and Havana, and one of the first replies is it was horrible. Really? The names aren't that great but I wouldn't go as far as to call them terrible or horrible.
People need to look and see how the names are viewed on this board and how people are replying.
I posted up the sibling set of Carmichael and Havana, and one of the first replies is it was horrible. Really? The names aren't that great but I wouldn't go as far as to call them terrible or horrible.
People need to look and see how the names are viewed on this board and how people are replying.
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Agreed completely.
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Why are you saying it in place of Rachel?
Neither Carmichael nor Havana seem like names distinctly from African American or black communities (the only Carmichael I know is white Scott’s-Irish). I don’t really care for either name though. They don’t strike me as terrible, but I can see how some people could have strong views. Carmichael sounds like a last name, and Havana is a little yuppyish. I wouldn’t assume that someone is racist simply because they don’t like these names; it seems a like a big leap to assume so much about people’s unspoken reasons in what could simply be a matter of preferences.
If a name is strongly associated with a particular community or people group it isn’t all that surprising that people may feel compelled to mention it. Cultural appropriation is a fairly sensitive issue, and a lot of people like to raise awareness.
Neither Carmichael nor Havana seem like names distinctly from African American or black communities (the only Carmichael I know is white Scott’s-Irish). I don’t really care for either name though. They don’t strike me as terrible, but I can see how some people could have strong views. Carmichael sounds like a last name, and Havana is a little yuppyish. I wouldn’t assume that someone is racist simply because they don’t like these names; it seems a like a big leap to assume so much about people’s unspoken reasons in what could simply be a matter of preferences.
If a name is strongly associated with a particular community or people group it isn’t all that surprising that people may feel compelled to mention it. Cultural appropriation is a fairly sensitive issue, and a lot of people like to raise awareness.
This message was edited 7/18/2018, 5:01 PM
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Agreed
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Well actually that's not was I was talking about. I don't think Darius "belongs" to black people at all. It's just I don't understand the reason why it's seen as a black name. It seems like it should be black and white.
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I was just curious why it's so associated with black people. I was wondering if someone knew why that's so. If you assume that I didn't like the name because of that, you're really jumping to untrue conclusions.
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I'm pointing out the need to continually separate out black and white names.
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I think there’s a big difference between mentioning that a name is used more often by African-Americans and writing off African-American names as trashy and horrible.
Like, to call people out for doing the latter you have to at least acknowledge the former, right?
Like, to call people out for doing the latter you have to at least acknowledge the former, right?
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^Yup.
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I don't like the fact that their separate. I'd like to see Darius on white and black children. It's just I don't know why me and a lot of other people picture a black boy or man first when we hear the name if we don't see the person. It's really strange.
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Well I do because the only one I've known was.
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