[Games] Matriarchy CAF (1)
We are following the first born daughter's in this family. Starting with the youngest, born in 1547.
This round: Renaissance
Choose a woman that will start this matriarchy.
1) Profile of a Woman; a 'Testa Ideale' by Antonio di Donnino del Mazziere
2) Sibyl by Biacchiacca
3) Portrait of Clelia Farnese by Scipione Pulzone
4) Portrait of a Woman by Jacopo Zucchi
5) Portrait of a Lady by Bernardino Luini 1480
6) Woman with a Veil by Raphael
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A bit of history. You can skip this.
You would most likely be named after one of your Godparents. According to Scott Smith-Bannister's recent study (see Sources section for references) about 75% to 85% of children were given the name of a godparent, in the cases where we know both the children's and the godparents' names.
If you were not named for a godparent, you would probably be named after a parent or another close relative. You were especially likely to get the name of a particular godparent or relative if they had a lot of money or status.
The child would NOT use what we now call a "middle name". Double given names were slowly spreading on the Continent, but the custom had not yet reached England, and in fact did not become really common in English-speaking countries until much later, as late as the 19th century in places.
As for last names, the most common type was the kind we use now, a surname or family name inherited from your father; if he was Edward Langley, you would be Mary Langley.
Interestingly, your last name was not quite as fixed as your first name. For instance, occasionally a family name might change. (As with many naming customs, money or status was often involved.) The family of Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester, was originally named Sutton; when they acquired the Dudley lands and title, most family members began using Dudley as their surname.
You might also be better known, especially in your local village, by a "byname" than by an inherited surname. A baker named Jeremy Staple might be known as Jeremy Baker or Master Baker rather than Master Staple. In some cases this might be passed on to his children and become the new family surname. Or if there were several Jeremys in the area and one was especially tall, short, red-haired, disabled, etc., or came originally from elsewhere, he might be called Jeremy Little, Lame Jeremy, or Jeremy Bristol.
According to Janell Lovelace's statistics, eventy percent of all women were named Elizabeth, Joan, Margaret, Anne, Alice, Agnes, Mary, Jane or Katherine. More than one out of every four men was named John, and 70% of all men were named John, Thomas, William, Richard, or Robert.
Source: https://www.mygen.com/users/outlaw/English%20Names%20of%20the%201500s%20-%20Outlawe.htm
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Now for the naming!
Ps. If you did not read the above then a quick mention that the family has no middle names. Nicknames are free to use.
Also scroll down for the last name
DH: John Thomas William Richard Robert Henry Nicholas Edward Walter
DW: Elizabeth Joan Margaret Anne Alice Agnes Isabel Katherine Mary Jane Margery
1) Two sons and a daughter
S: John Thomas Leonard Arthur Martin Reynold Piers Oswyn
D: Margery Cecily Ellen Rachel Anne Parnell
2) Twin sons, two sons, and a daughter
S: William Richard George James Lawrence Hugh Barnaby Joseph Rowland Ambrose Bernard
D: Jane Judith Gilliam Thomasin Marion Maud
3) Two sons, a daughter, and a son
S: Henry Peter Allen David Fulke Luke Mathias Oliver Valentine Cuthbert Bartholomew
D: Katherine Mary Frideswide Fortune Beatrice Denise
4) Three sons and a daughter
S: Edward Drew Humphrey Edmund Abraham Nathaniel Julian Lancelot Mark
D: Alice Isabel Ellen Janet Rose Marion Wilmot
5) Two daughters, twin daughters, and a son
S: Walter Michael Stephen Philip Isaac
D: Margaret Anne Dorothy Edith Audrey Charity Agnes Susanna Lucy Mabel Ursula Josian
6) A son, daughter, son, daughter, son
S: Geoffrey Christopher Charles Gregory Matthew Adam Avery Giles Adrian Gerard
D: Elizabeth Joan Christian Barbara Julian Philippa Avis Lettice
LN: Aldebourne Basset Cardiff Daunce Elmebrigge Fitzherbert Goodluck Holbrook Isley James Kekilpenny Lestrange Marcheford Nash Outlawe Phillips Quintin Robertson Swan Trumpington Upton Verney Wexcombe Yaxley
This round: Renaissance
Choose a woman that will start this matriarchy.
1) Profile of a Woman; a 'Testa Ideale' by Antonio di Donnino del Mazziere
2) Sibyl by Biacchiacca
3) Portrait of Clelia Farnese by Scipione Pulzone
4) Portrait of a Woman by Jacopo Zucchi
5) Portrait of a Lady by Bernardino Luini 1480
6) Woman with a Veil by Raphael
⭐️
A bit of history. You can skip this.
You would most likely be named after one of your Godparents. According to Scott Smith-Bannister's recent study (see Sources section for references) about 75% to 85% of children were given the name of a godparent, in the cases where we know both the children's and the godparents' names.
If you were not named for a godparent, you would probably be named after a parent or another close relative. You were especially likely to get the name of a particular godparent or relative if they had a lot of money or status.
The child would NOT use what we now call a "middle name". Double given names were slowly spreading on the Continent, but the custom had not yet reached England, and in fact did not become really common in English-speaking countries until much later, as late as the 19th century in places.
As for last names, the most common type was the kind we use now, a surname or family name inherited from your father; if he was Edward Langley, you would be Mary Langley.
Interestingly, your last name was not quite as fixed as your first name. For instance, occasionally a family name might change. (As with many naming customs, money or status was often involved.) The family of Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester, was originally named Sutton; when they acquired the Dudley lands and title, most family members began using Dudley as their surname.
You might also be better known, especially in your local village, by a "byname" than by an inherited surname. A baker named Jeremy Staple might be known as Jeremy Baker or Master Baker rather than Master Staple. In some cases this might be passed on to his children and become the new family surname. Or if there were several Jeremys in the area and one was especially tall, short, red-haired, disabled, etc., or came originally from elsewhere, he might be called Jeremy Little, Lame Jeremy, or Jeremy Bristol.
According to Janell Lovelace's statistics, eventy percent of all women were named Elizabeth, Joan, Margaret, Anne, Alice, Agnes, Mary, Jane or Katherine. More than one out of every four men was named John, and 70% of all men were named John, Thomas, William, Richard, or Robert.
Source: https://www.mygen.com/users/outlaw/English%20Names%20of%20the%201500s%20-%20Outlawe.htm
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Now for the naming!
Ps. If you did not read the above then a quick mention that the family has no middle names. Nicknames are free to use.
Also scroll down for the last name
DH: John Thomas William Richard Robert Henry Nicholas Edward Walter
DW: Elizabeth Joan Margaret Anne Alice Agnes Isabel Katherine Mary Jane Margery
1) Two sons and a daughter
S: John Thomas Leonard Arthur Martin Reynold Piers Oswyn
D: Margery Cecily Ellen Rachel Anne Parnell
2) Twin sons, two sons, and a daughter
S: William Richard George James Lawrence Hugh Barnaby Joseph Rowland Ambrose Bernard
D: Jane Judith Gilliam Thomasin Marion Maud
3) Two sons, a daughter, and a son
S: Henry Peter Allen David Fulke Luke Mathias Oliver Valentine Cuthbert Bartholomew
D: Katherine Mary Frideswide Fortune Beatrice Denise
4) Three sons and a daughter
S: Edward Drew Humphrey Edmund Abraham Nathaniel Julian Lancelot Mark
D: Alice Isabel Ellen Janet Rose Marion Wilmot
5) Two daughters, twin daughters, and a son
S: Walter Michael Stephen Philip Isaac
D: Margaret Anne Dorothy Edith Audrey Charity Agnes Susanna Lucy Mabel Ursula Josian
6) A son, daughter, son, daughter, son
S: Geoffrey Christopher Charles Gregory Matthew Adam Avery Giles Adrian Gerard
D: Elizabeth Joan Christian Barbara Julian Philippa Avis Lettice
LN: Aldebourne Basset Cardiff Daunce Elmebrigge Fitzherbert Goodluck Holbrook Isley James Kekilpenny Lestrange Marcheford Nash Outlawe Phillips Quintin Robertson Swan Trumpington Upton Verney Wexcombe Yaxley
This message was edited 8/14/2023, 11:31 AM
Replies
DH: Nicholas
DW: Elizabeth ‘Libby’
DD: Mabel
DD: Anne ‘Annie’
DD/DD: Edith and Agnes
DS: Walter ‘Walt’
DW: Elizabeth ‘Libby’
DD: Mabel
DD: Anne ‘Annie’
DD/DD: Edith and Agnes
DS: Walter ‘Walt’
W: Isabel Goodluck
H: Nicholas Elmebrigge
S: Adam Elmebrigge
D: Philippa Elmebrigge
S: Geoffrey Elmebrigge
D: Lettice Elmebrigge
S: Charles Elmebrigge
H: Nicholas Elmebrigge
S: Adam Elmebrigge
D: Philippa Elmebrigge
S: Geoffrey Elmebrigge
D: Lettice Elmebrigge
S: Charles Elmebrigge
DH: William Holbrook
DW: Isabel Upton-Holbrook
DS: Bartholomew Holbrook
DS: Mathias Holbrook
DD: Beatrice Holbrook
DS: Oliver Holbrook
DW: Isabel Upton-Holbrook
DS: Bartholomew Holbrook
DS: Mathias Holbrook
DD: Beatrice Holbrook
DS: Oliver Holbrook
Henry ❤️ Isabel
Giles
Avis
Christopher "Kit"
Lettice
Gregory "Greg"
[Henry & Isabel || Giles, Avis, Kit, Lettice, Greg]
Edward James
Katherine Adelbourne James
Christopher James
Elizabeth James
Adrian James
Lettice 'Letty' James
Avery James
Katherine Adelbourne James
Christopher James
Elizabeth James
Adrian James
Lettice 'Letty' James
Avery James
DH: William Swan "Will"
DW: Margaret Holbrook Swan "Meg"
DS: Charles Swan "Charlie"
DD: Elizabeth Swan "Beth"
DS: Matthew Swan
DD: Philippa Swan "Pippi"
DS: Geoffrey Swan
DW: Margaret Holbrook Swan "Meg"
DS: Charles Swan "Charlie"
DD: Elizabeth Swan "Beth"
DS: Matthew Swan
DD: Philippa Swan "Pippi"
DS: Geoffrey Swan
DH: John Fitzherbert “John”
DW: Elizabeth [Upton] Fitzherbert “Elizabeth”
DS: Nathaniel Fitzherbert “Nathaniel”
DS: Edward Fitzherbert “Edward”
DS: Edmund Fitzherbert “Edmund”
DD: Alice Fitzherbert “Alice”
John & Elizabeth Fitzherbert: Nathaniel, Edward, Edmund, & Alice
DW: Elizabeth [Upton] Fitzherbert “Elizabeth”
DS: Nathaniel Fitzherbert “Nathaniel”
DS: Edward Fitzherbert “Edward”
DS: Edmund Fitzherbert “Edmund”
DD: Alice Fitzherbert “Alice”
John & Elizabeth Fitzherbert: Nathaniel, Edward, Edmund, & Alice
DH: Robert Wexcombe
DW: Anne Wexcombe (née Cardiff)
DS1: Charles Wexcombe
DD1: Joan Wexcombe
DS2: Adam Wexcombe
DD2: Philippa Wexcombe
DS3: Gregory Wexcombe
DW: Anne Wexcombe (née Cardiff)
DS1: Charles Wexcombe
DD1: Joan Wexcombe
DS2: Adam Wexcombe
DD2: Philippa Wexcombe
DS3: Gregory Wexcombe
DH: Henry Holbrook
DW: Katherine (Upton) Holbrook
DS: Gerard Holbrook
DD: Elizabeth Holbrook
DS: Charles Holbrook
DD: Lettice Holbrook
DS: Gregory Holbrook
DW: Katherine (Upton) Holbrook
DS: Gerard Holbrook
DD: Elizabeth Holbrook
DS: Charles Holbrook
DD: Lettice Holbrook
DS: Gregory Holbrook
DH: Edward Verney
DW: Alice [Outlawe] Verney
DS: Gerard Verney
DD: Joan Verney
DS: Avery Verney
DD: Barbara Verney
DS: Charles "Charlie" Verney
DW: Alice [Outlawe] Verney
DS: Gerard Verney
DD: Joan Verney
DS: Avery Verney
DD: Barbara Verney
DS: Charles "Charlie" Verney
DH: Edward "Ned" Holbrook
DW: Mary "Molly" Daunce
DS: Adam Holbrook
DD: Elizabeth "Bess" Holbrook
DS: Geoffrey "Jep" Holbrook
DD: Christian Holbrook
DS: Matthew Holbrook
DW: Mary "Molly" Daunce
DS: Adam Holbrook
DD: Elizabeth "Bess" Holbrook
DS: Geoffrey "Jep" Holbrook
DD: Christian Holbrook
DS: Matthew Holbrook
Agnes Basset Isley & Edward Isley
Oliver Isley
Luke Isley
Beatrice Isley
Peter Isley
Oliver Isley
Luke Isley
Beatrice Isley
Peter Isley
DH: William Marcheford 'Will'
DW: Elizabeth (Upton) Marcheford 'Lizzie'
DD: Audrey Marcheford
DD: Lucy Marcheford
DD/DD: Mabel Marcheford 'Mae'/Margaret Marcheford 'Maggie'
DS: Isaac Marcheford
DW: Elizabeth (Upton) Marcheford 'Lizzie'
DD: Audrey Marcheford
DD: Lucy Marcheford
DD/DD: Mabel Marcheford 'Mae'/Margaret Marcheford 'Maggie'
DS: Isaac Marcheford
DH: Henry Basset
DW: Jane Wexcombe
DS: Bartholomew Basset
DS: Oliver Basset
DD: Katherine Basset
DS: Mathias Basset
DW: Jane Wexcombe
DS: Bartholomew Basset
DS: Oliver Basset
DD: Katherine Basset
DS: Mathias Basset
DH: Walter Marcheford
DW: Jane "Janet" Kekilpenny
DD: Anne Marcheford
DS: Philip Marcheford
DD/DD: Lucy & Mabel Marcheford
DD: Dorothy Marcheford
*****
DW: Jane "Janet" Kekilpenny
DD: Anne Marcheford
DS: Philip Marcheford
DD/DD: Lucy & Mabel Marcheford
DD: Dorothy Marcheford
*****
DH: Walter Kekilpenny
DW: Agnes Elmebrigge
S1: Cuthbert Kekilpenny
S2: Bartholomew Kekilpenny
D1: Frideswide Kekilpenny
S3: Allen Kekilpenny
DW: Agnes Elmebrigge
S1: Cuthbert Kekilpenny
S2: Bartholomew Kekilpenny
D1: Frideswide Kekilpenny
S3: Allen Kekilpenny
LN: Fitzherbert
DH: Frederick “Fred”
DW: Pearl (MN: Basset)
DS: Adam
DD: Elizabeth “Betty”
DS: Christopher “Kit”
DD: Philippa “Pippa”
DS: Charles “Charlie”
DH: Frederick “Fred”
DW: Pearl (MN: Basset)
DS: Adam
DD: Elizabeth “Betty”
DS: Christopher “Kit”
DD: Philippa “Pippa”
DS: Charles “Charlie”
DH: Edward Kekilpenny
DW: Katherine Kekilpenny
DS: Edward "Ned" Kekilpenny
DD: Isabel Kekilpenny
DS: Humphrey Kekilpenny
DS: Julian Kekilpenny
DW: Katherine Kekilpenny
DS: Edward "Ned" Kekilpenny
DD: Isabel Kekilpenny
DS: Humphrey Kekilpenny
DS: Julian Kekilpenny
DH: John Marcheford
DW: Alice née Verney
DS: Mathias Marcheford
DS: David Marcheford
DD: Fortune Marcheford
DS: Henry Marcheford
DW: Alice née Verney
DS: Mathias Marcheford
DS: David Marcheford
DD: Fortune Marcheford
DS: Henry Marcheford
H: John Daunce
W: Margaret (Upton) Daunce, "Peggy"
S1: Edward Daunce, "Ned"
S2: Mark Daunce
S3: Lancelot Daunce, "Lance"
D: Wilmot Daunce
W: Margaret (Upton) Daunce, "Peggy"
S1: Edward Daunce, "Ned"
S2: Mark Daunce
S3: Lancelot Daunce, "Lance"
D: Wilmot Daunce
I've not done one of these before, so I chose #6, if that's relevant.
DH: Henry Cardiff
DW: Katherine (Wexcombe) Cardiff
S: Charles Cardiff
D: Elizabeth Cardiff
S: Adam Cardiff
D: Philippa Cardiff
S: Geoffrey Cardiff
Henry & Katherine: Charles, Elizabeth, Adam, Philippa, and Geoffrey
DH: Henry Cardiff
DW: Katherine (Wexcombe) Cardiff
S: Charles Cardiff
D: Elizabeth Cardiff
S: Adam Cardiff
D: Philippa Cardiff
S: Geoffrey Cardiff
Henry & Katherine: Charles, Elizabeth, Adam, Philippa, and Geoffrey
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DW: Agnes Swan
DH: Richard (James) Swan
S/S: Richard Swan, James Swan
S: Lawrence Swan
S: Barnaby Swan
D: Gilliam Swan
DH: Richard (James) Swan
S/S: Richard Swan, James Swan
S: Lawrence Swan
S: Barnaby Swan
D: Gilliam Swan
DH: Henry Fitzherbert
DW: Elizabeth Holbrook
DS: Edward Fitzherbert
DS: Nathaniel Fitzherbert
DS: Abraham Fitzherbert
DD: Isabel Fitzherbert
DW: Elizabeth Holbrook
DS: Edward Fitzherbert
DS: Nathaniel Fitzherbert
DS: Abraham Fitzherbert
DD: Isabel Fitzherbert
DW: Katherine Marcheford
DH: William (Swan) Marcheford
DD: Lucy Marcheford
DD: Anne Marcheford
DD/DD: Audrey Marcheford/Susanna Marcheford
DS: Walter Marcheford
DH: William (Swan) Marcheford
DD: Lucy Marcheford
DD: Anne Marcheford
DD/DD: Audrey Marcheford/Susanna Marcheford
DS: Walter Marcheford
DW: Alice Elmebrigge
DH: Edward [Swan] Elmebrigge
DS/DS: Joseph Elmebrigge/James Elmebrigge
DS: Richard Elmebrigge
DS: Ambrose Elmebrigge
DD: Thomasin Elmebrigge
Alice and Edward with Joseph, James, Richard, Ambrose, and Thomasin
DH: Edward [Swan] Elmebrigge
DS/DS: Joseph Elmebrigge/James Elmebrigge
DS: Richard Elmebrigge
DS: Ambrose Elmebrigge
DD: Thomasin Elmebrigge
Alice and Edward with Joseph, James, Richard, Ambrose, and Thomasin
H: Walter Goodluck
W: Margery Wexcombe
S/S: Barnaby Goodluck & Ambrose Goodluck
D: Thomasin Goodluck
W: Margery Wexcombe
S/S: Barnaby Goodluck & Ambrose Goodluck
D: Thomasin Goodluck
DW: Alice Verney
DH: Thomas (Goodluck) Verney
DD: Julian Verney
DS: Adam Verney
DD: Elizabeth Verney
DS: Matthew Verney
DD: Barbara Verney
DH: Thomas (Goodluck) Verney
DD: Julian Verney
DS: Adam Verney
DD: Elizabeth Verney
DS: Matthew Verney
DD: Barbara Verney