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Help[Opinions] Re: Is it wrong to give your baby a tribal name if you're not from that tribe?
in reply to a message by TMyers
OP is a troll. I was going to write out all the discrepancies myself, but I didn't want to use the brain power, so instead I fed their posts into AI and had it write them out for me. God bless modern technology.
“Overview: The Poster’s Fabricated Polyamorous "Fundamentalist" Marriage
The original poster (OP) presents a series of highly contradictory claims about being part of a polyamorous "Fundamentalist" marriage. The narrative includes multiple inconsistencies related to relationships, pregnancies, and sexual activity. These contradictions, along with cultural inaccuracies, suggest that OP is fabricating the story to provoke reactions. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the discrepancies, with initials for the characters: "J," "K," "R," and "Z."
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1. Timeline of Relationships and Children:
OP claims that she and her husband "J" met in high school, began dating in 10th grade, and married after graduation. Five years later, "J" married "K" after four months of dating. OP also says that "J" and "K" had four children by the time they got married, which is impossible due to the time constraints involved. The story lacks coherence in terms of how long they’ve been together and how many children they have.
Additionally, OP introduces a third wife, "R," in only one post, where she mentions that "J" has two children with "R." However, "R" is completely absent from the rest of OP’s narrative. Typically, OP frames the polygamous dynamic as involving just herself and "K" as the co-wives. The introduction of "R" feels like an afterthought and is not woven into the rest of the story, raising questions about whether this character is a real part of the narrative.
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2. Geographical and Cultural Discrepancies:
OP makes several geographical mistakes while claiming Aztec descent. For instance, she says that the Aztec people come from northern Mexico, which is geographically incorrect—the Aztecs lived in central Mexico, particularly around modern-day Mexico City. This major error suggests a superficial understanding of the cultural heritage OP is trying to portray.
In another post, OP and "J" express concerns over "K" (who is Caucasian) appropriating Aztec culture by using an Aztec name for her child. However, in later posts, "J" becomes ambivalent about the issue, seemingly accepting it because he is the father. This inconsistency in how cultural appropriation is handled further shows how OP’s narrative is contradictory and unreliable.
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3. Inconsistent Relationship Dynamics:
Initially, OP portrays a harmonious polygamous arrangement between "J" and the two wives, "K" and herself, claiming that their relationship improved their intimate life. Yet, when OP brings her new husband, "Z," into the mix, "J" becomes furious, accuses OP of cheating, and physically assaults her. This shift directly contradicts the earlier portrayal of mutual acceptance and consent in their relationship, exposing a deep inconsistency in the way "J" is depicted.
The inconsistency in how "J" reacts to OP’s new partner undermines the idea that their marriage is open and polyamorous. If they were truly in a consensual polyamorous relationship, "J"’s aggressive reaction would not align with the dynamic that OP originally describes.
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4. Pregnancy and Child Discrepancies:
One of the most glaring contradictions in OP’s posts is her claim about her pregnancy and children. In one post, OP says that she is pregnant with "J’s" first child, but in another post, she mentions dropping off her children at school, implying she already has school-aged kids. These conflicting statements can’t both be true, as they create confusion about whether this is her first pregnancy or if she already has children.
OP also states that "K" is pregnant with her fourth child, yet in another post, she claims that "K" already has four children. This contradiction further muddies the family structure and adds to the overall sense that OP is fabricating details as she goes along.
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5. Sexual Activity Inconsistencies:
In one post, OP claims that she has been abstaining from sex while pregnant because she believes she "can't have sex while pregnant." This is factually incorrect, as pregnant women are typically able to engage in sexual activity unless they have specific medical complications.
However, in another post, OP claims that she and "J" engage in intimate activities every night with his other wives. The contradiction between these two claims—one stating that OP isn’t having sex while pregnant, and the other claiming she has been engaging in sex regularly—creates significant confusion and suggests that the story is not credible.
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6. Co-Wife Dynamics and Missing Details About "R":
In most posts, OP frames the relationship as being between herself and "K" as the two co-wives of "J." However, in one post, she suddenly introduces "R" as a third wife who has two children with "J." Despite this introduction, "R" is never mentioned again. OP doesn’t elaborate on how "R" fits into the family dynamic, what her role is, or how her relationship with the other wives plays out.
This suggests that "R" was either an afterthought or a fabricated addition to create further complexity in the story. The lack of detail about "R" stands in stark contrast to the frequent mentions of "K," making "R" feel like an unnecessary or inconsistent element in OP’s narrative.
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7. Cultural Appropriation and Name Inaccuracies:
OP presents a conflict over "K" using an Aztec name for her child, claiming that it feels like cultural appropriation since "K" is not of Aztec descent. However, many of the names OP mentions as Aztec are either inaccurately attributed or modern creations:
Yaretzi: OP calls this an ancient Aztec name, but it is actually a modern name derived from Nahuatl, meaning "you will always be loved".
Xitllali: OP says this name means "goddess of the moon," but the correct Nahuatl word is Citlali, which means "star," not moon.
Anacaona: OP claims this name is Aztec, but it actually comes from the Taino people of the Caribbean, not the Aztecs.
These inaccuracies highlight OP’s superficial understanding of Aztec culture, further calling into question the authenticity of the story.
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8. Financial and Logistical Implausibilities:
In one post, OP claims that she and "J" leave their children with a neighbor for three hours every night and pay the neighbor $56 each time so they can engage in intimate activities with the other wives. This equates to nearly $400 a week for childcare, which would be unsustainable for most families, especially one with multiple children.
Moreover, the need for nightly childcare in such a routine is logistically questionable and suggests that OP is fabricating details for dramatic effect. The financial and logistical aspects of OP’s story don’t align with typical realities.
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9. Erratic Tone and Language:
OP’s tone and writing quality vary significantly across posts. In some, the sentences are fragmented, and the grammar is poor, while in others, the writing is more polished. This inconsistency in tone suggests either multiple people are involved in writing the posts, or OP is deliberately shifting tone to evoke different reactions.
In one post, OP is confused and seeks advice about cultural appropriation, while in another, she presents herself as knowledgeable about Aztec history (despite the information being incorrect). This inconsistency in voice further detracts from the credibility of the narrative.
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Conclusion:
OP’s narrative is riddled with inconsistencies and contradictions. From the timeline of relationships and pregnancies to claims about sexual activity, cultural appropriation, and family dynamics, the story simply doesn’t hold together. The introduction of "R" in only one post, the contradictory claims about being pregnant while also having school-aged children, and the erroneous belief that sex isn’t allowed during pregnancy all point to fabrication.
These numerous discrepancies, along with cultural inaccuracies and financial implausibilities, suggest that OP is attempting to provoke reactions through a fabricated story, but the lack of internal coherence makes the story fall apart.”
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https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/223226/138473
“Overview: The Poster’s Fabricated Polyamorous "Fundamentalist" Marriage
The original poster (OP) presents a series of highly contradictory claims about being part of a polyamorous "Fundamentalist" marriage. The narrative includes multiple inconsistencies related to relationships, pregnancies, and sexual activity. These contradictions, along with cultural inaccuracies, suggest that OP is fabricating the story to provoke reactions. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the discrepancies, with initials for the characters: "J," "K," "R," and "Z."
---
1. Timeline of Relationships and Children:
OP claims that she and her husband "J" met in high school, began dating in 10th grade, and married after graduation. Five years later, "J" married "K" after four months of dating. OP also says that "J" and "K" had four children by the time they got married, which is impossible due to the time constraints involved. The story lacks coherence in terms of how long they’ve been together and how many children they have.
Additionally, OP introduces a third wife, "R," in only one post, where she mentions that "J" has two children with "R." However, "R" is completely absent from the rest of OP’s narrative. Typically, OP frames the polygamous dynamic as involving just herself and "K" as the co-wives. The introduction of "R" feels like an afterthought and is not woven into the rest of the story, raising questions about whether this character is a real part of the narrative.
---
2. Geographical and Cultural Discrepancies:
OP makes several geographical mistakes while claiming Aztec descent. For instance, she says that the Aztec people come from northern Mexico, which is geographically incorrect—the Aztecs lived in central Mexico, particularly around modern-day Mexico City. This major error suggests a superficial understanding of the cultural heritage OP is trying to portray.
In another post, OP and "J" express concerns over "K" (who is Caucasian) appropriating Aztec culture by using an Aztec name for her child. However, in later posts, "J" becomes ambivalent about the issue, seemingly accepting it because he is the father. This inconsistency in how cultural appropriation is handled further shows how OP’s narrative is contradictory and unreliable.
---
3. Inconsistent Relationship Dynamics:
Initially, OP portrays a harmonious polygamous arrangement between "J" and the two wives, "K" and herself, claiming that their relationship improved their intimate life. Yet, when OP brings her new husband, "Z," into the mix, "J" becomes furious, accuses OP of cheating, and physically assaults her. This shift directly contradicts the earlier portrayal of mutual acceptance and consent in their relationship, exposing a deep inconsistency in the way "J" is depicted.
The inconsistency in how "J" reacts to OP’s new partner undermines the idea that their marriage is open and polyamorous. If they were truly in a consensual polyamorous relationship, "J"’s aggressive reaction would not align with the dynamic that OP originally describes.
---
4. Pregnancy and Child Discrepancies:
One of the most glaring contradictions in OP’s posts is her claim about her pregnancy and children. In one post, OP says that she is pregnant with "J’s" first child, but in another post, she mentions dropping off her children at school, implying she already has school-aged kids. These conflicting statements can’t both be true, as they create confusion about whether this is her first pregnancy or if she already has children.
OP also states that "K" is pregnant with her fourth child, yet in another post, she claims that "K" already has four children. This contradiction further muddies the family structure and adds to the overall sense that OP is fabricating details as she goes along.
---
5. Sexual Activity Inconsistencies:
In one post, OP claims that she has been abstaining from sex while pregnant because she believes she "can't have sex while pregnant." This is factually incorrect, as pregnant women are typically able to engage in sexual activity unless they have specific medical complications.
However, in another post, OP claims that she and "J" engage in intimate activities every night with his other wives. The contradiction between these two claims—one stating that OP isn’t having sex while pregnant, and the other claiming she has been engaging in sex regularly—creates significant confusion and suggests that the story is not credible.
---
6. Co-Wife Dynamics and Missing Details About "R":
In most posts, OP frames the relationship as being between herself and "K" as the two co-wives of "J." However, in one post, she suddenly introduces "R" as a third wife who has two children with "J." Despite this introduction, "R" is never mentioned again. OP doesn’t elaborate on how "R" fits into the family dynamic, what her role is, or how her relationship with the other wives plays out.
This suggests that "R" was either an afterthought or a fabricated addition to create further complexity in the story. The lack of detail about "R" stands in stark contrast to the frequent mentions of "K," making "R" feel like an unnecessary or inconsistent element in OP’s narrative.
---
7. Cultural Appropriation and Name Inaccuracies:
OP presents a conflict over "K" using an Aztec name for her child, claiming that it feels like cultural appropriation since "K" is not of Aztec descent. However, many of the names OP mentions as Aztec are either inaccurately attributed or modern creations:
Yaretzi: OP calls this an ancient Aztec name, but it is actually a modern name derived from Nahuatl, meaning "you will always be loved".
Xitllali: OP says this name means "goddess of the moon," but the correct Nahuatl word is Citlali, which means "star," not moon.
Anacaona: OP claims this name is Aztec, but it actually comes from the Taino people of the Caribbean, not the Aztecs.
These inaccuracies highlight OP’s superficial understanding of Aztec culture, further calling into question the authenticity of the story.
---
8. Financial and Logistical Implausibilities:
In one post, OP claims that she and "J" leave their children with a neighbor for three hours every night and pay the neighbor $56 each time so they can engage in intimate activities with the other wives. This equates to nearly $400 a week for childcare, which would be unsustainable for most families, especially one with multiple children.
Moreover, the need for nightly childcare in such a routine is logistically questionable and suggests that OP is fabricating details for dramatic effect. The financial and logistical aspects of OP’s story don’t align with typical realities.
---
9. Erratic Tone and Language:
OP’s tone and writing quality vary significantly across posts. In some, the sentences are fragmented, and the grammar is poor, while in others, the writing is more polished. This inconsistency in tone suggests either multiple people are involved in writing the posts, or OP is deliberately shifting tone to evoke different reactions.
In one post, OP is confused and seeks advice about cultural appropriation, while in another, she presents herself as knowledgeable about Aztec history (despite the information being incorrect). This inconsistency in voice further detracts from the credibility of the narrative.
---
Conclusion:
OP’s narrative is riddled with inconsistencies and contradictions. From the timeline of relationships and pregnancies to claims about sexual activity, cultural appropriation, and family dynamics, the story simply doesn’t hold together. The introduction of "R" in only one post, the contradictory claims about being pregnant while also having school-aged children, and the erroneous belief that sex isn’t allowed during pregnancy all point to fabrication.
These numerous discrepancies, along with cultural inaccuracies and financial implausibilities, suggest that OP is attempting to provoke reactions through a fabricated story, but the lack of internal coherence makes the story fall apart.”
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https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/223226/138473
Replies
This is brilliant. 😂
yes. OP just needs to be herself. it's a whole lot easier and I bet it would feel much better than all this lying.
Ooof, I gave a genuine response to this poster and now I do feel like I've been feeding a troll.
Good troll-hunting, but I will say be careful with your points about '3. Inconsistent Relationship Dynamics', for example, a partner wanting to "open" a relationship (e.g. cheat) and becoming hostile and agressive when their partner meets other people and has more success in the "open" relationship is actually pretty common in some (in my opinion) unhealthy relationships. 'Inconsistant dynamics' like that could also be indicative of an abusive situation. Your other points still stand undisputed, but a partner "opening" a relationship and then becoming physically abusive when they feel "cheated on" is unfortunately far from the least believable part of this. Whilst this is probably a creative writing exercise by a very bored person, I do think we've gotta be aware that being dismissive of 'inconsistant relationship dynamics' could prevent people in genuinely difficult relationships asking for support because they feel they might not be believed. (I feel obliged to say that on the odd chance anyone reading this IS in an abusive situation, please do reach out for support as people will believe you and support you and help you out of the situation you are in. If this OP is just a troll, the use of a DV "storyline" is sadly unoriginal and just unbelievably low and scummy)
Also no sex during pregnancy is sadly a thing some people genuinely believe. Most people get rubbish sex ed. I grew up in the UK (better sex ed than the US but still not great) and I knew guys who thought women were straight on haemorrhaging for a week when we got our periods ("how do you bleed for a week and not die?"), that we can hold our periods in, and that we pee and bleed from the same place...so... thinking no sex during pregnancy does not really read troll or satire to me, it could (not in this case with everything added up) just be faulty education.
Good troll-hunting, but I will say be careful with your points about '3. Inconsistent Relationship Dynamics', for example, a partner wanting to "open" a relationship (e.g. cheat) and becoming hostile and agressive when their partner meets other people and has more success in the "open" relationship is actually pretty common in some (in my opinion) unhealthy relationships. 'Inconsistant dynamics' like that could also be indicative of an abusive situation. Your other points still stand undisputed, but a partner "opening" a relationship and then becoming physically abusive when they feel "cheated on" is unfortunately far from the least believable part of this. Whilst this is probably a creative writing exercise by a very bored person, I do think we've gotta be aware that being dismissive of 'inconsistant relationship dynamics' could prevent people in genuinely difficult relationships asking for support because they feel they might not be believed. (I feel obliged to say that on the odd chance anyone reading this IS in an abusive situation, please do reach out for support as people will believe you and support you and help you out of the situation you are in. If this OP is just a troll, the use of a DV "storyline" is sadly unoriginal and just unbelievably low and scummy)
Also no sex during pregnancy is sadly a thing some people genuinely believe. Most people get rubbish sex ed. I grew up in the UK (better sex ed than the US but still not great) and I knew guys who thought women were straight on haemorrhaging for a week when we got our periods ("how do you bleed for a week and not die?"), that we can hold our periods in, and that we pee and bleed from the same place...so... thinking no sex during pregnancy does not really read troll or satire to me, it could (not in this case with everything added up) just be faulty education.
You make valid points. I will only add that though people can falsely believe pregnant women can't engage in intimacy, OP had previously written contradictory statements concerning pregnency intimacy involvement and beliefs.
Right on!