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Help[Facts] Re: Adian
in reply to a message by mirfak
I’ve done a bit of digging and feel confident saying that Adian is not a Russian name.
Russian figure skater Adian Pitkeev is of Kalmyk descent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oirats
I found this interview with him and among others things he mentions that:
‘’ - Who named you Adian? Do you know what this name means?
- It was a friend of my grandpa's family with my grandma, Dyugev Adian Nimeevich, a famous doctor in Moscow, a doctor of medical sciences. Therefore my father decided to call me Adian, so that I, as he says, would not forget about my Kalmyk roots. And my mother also liked this name. And it translated from Sanskrit as "sun".’’
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?55608-Interview-and-Translation-Adian-Pitkeev
I don’t know enough about Sanskrit to confirm or refute this claim.
The mathematician’s surname could be transliterated as Adian or Adyan and is apparently of Armenian descent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Adian
I have found Adyan in these articles about Kalmyk names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_names and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akora_Khattak#Akhund_Adyan_Baba_Seljoki
As a Bosnian name it is used by Bosnian Muslims and probably has an Arabic or Turkish root.
http://www.knjigaimena.com/?znacenje-imena-Adian - this Bosnian name website claims it is of Arabic descent, meaning ‘religious, devout’. Again I don’t know enough Arabic to confirm or dispute this.
I found this Iranian film director whose surname is As’adian - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homayoun_As%E2%80%99adian.
Hope this was at least somewhat helpful to you. Maybe someone more knowledgeable in these languages can help.
Russian figure skater Adian Pitkeev is of Kalmyk descent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oirats
I found this interview with him and among others things he mentions that:
‘’ - Who named you Adian? Do you know what this name means?
- It was a friend of my grandpa's family with my grandma, Dyugev Adian Nimeevich, a famous doctor in Moscow, a doctor of medical sciences. Therefore my father decided to call me Adian, so that I, as he says, would not forget about my Kalmyk roots. And my mother also liked this name. And it translated from Sanskrit as "sun".’’
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?55608-Interview-and-Translation-Adian-Pitkeev
I don’t know enough about Sanskrit to confirm or refute this claim.
The mathematician’s surname could be transliterated as Adian or Adyan and is apparently of Armenian descent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Adian
I have found Adyan in these articles about Kalmyk names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_names and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akora_Khattak#Akhund_Adyan_Baba_Seljoki
As a Bosnian name it is used by Bosnian Muslims and probably has an Arabic or Turkish root.
http://www.knjigaimena.com/?znacenje-imena-Adian - this Bosnian name website claims it is of Arabic descent, meaning ‘religious, devout’. Again I don’t know enough Arabic to confirm or dispute this.
I found this Iranian film director whose surname is As’adian - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homayoun_As%E2%80%99adian.
Hope this was at least somewhat helpful to you. Maybe someone more knowledgeable in these languages can help.
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It is often so difficult to trace the original words through all the phonetic change that happens ... so, I can never be sure that it does not have a Sanskrit origin. But, I know passable Sanskrit, and no word pops up with that meaning.
The phonologically closest word whose meaning set overlaps "sun" in Sanskrit that I can think of is Aditya. That, is too far, in my mind, though.
The phonologically closest word whose meaning set overlaps "sun" in Sanskrit that I can think of is Aditya. That, is too far, in my mind, though.
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This webpage claims:
Tibetan and Sanskrit individual names from a semantic point of view:[1]
Astronomical objects - Angarak (Mars), Bembö (Saturn), Adyan (Sun);
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_names
Tibetan and Sanskrit individual names from a semantic point of view:[1]
Astronomical objects - Angarak (Mars), Bembö (Saturn), Adyan (Sun);
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_names
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angAraka (velar n, long open A, schwa for a) is an elaboration of angAra, whose last part is cognate with coal. A bunch of Sanskrit stems with ang/ag have to do with fire, and angAraka is basically embers. It is used for Mars, so that matched.
Bembö is not recognizable as Sanskrit to me. But the title implies it may be Tibetan instead. Though Tibetan and Sanskrit today are written in related scripts, descendents of Brahmi, they are unrelated languages. I know almost nothing of the entire Tibeto-Burman family of languages.
Adyan does sound (i.e., phonotactically) Indoeuropean to me. In fact, Persian has din meaning religion (originially meaning that which is seen) whose plural adyan (From wiktionary, look under دین, I do not know where this plural form comes from) is used as a name meaning "religious".
But, I can't figure out the exact set of vowels and consonants that sound like this and will give me a Sanskrit word meaning sun ...
Bembö is not recognizable as Sanskrit to me. But the title implies it may be Tibetan instead. Though Tibetan and Sanskrit today are written in related scripts, descendents of Brahmi, they are unrelated languages. I know almost nothing of the entire Tibeto-Burman family of languages.
Adyan does sound (i.e., phonotactically) Indoeuropean to me. In fact, Persian has din meaning religion (originially meaning that which is seen) whose plural adyan (From wiktionary, look under دین, I do not know where this plural form comes from) is used as a name meaning "religious".
But, I can't figure out the exact set of vowels and consonants that sound like this and will give me a Sanskrit word meaning sun ...
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thanks!
That is really interesting. Thanks for taking the time.
That is really interesting. Thanks for taking the time.
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