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Help[Opinions] No, nope, NEVER. (m)
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Elliot has always been my favorite name for a boy and I got so irritated when it began being used on girls. STOP THIS ALREADY!!! Now if I ever have a boy (not pregnant, have one daughter), I won't feel comfortable using this name anymore. :(
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You would feel uncomfortable giving a son a boy's name that a girl might have?
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Maybe not uncomfortable but I'd rather not.
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I'm sorry you feel that way because probably every boys name has been used for a girl before. It's not a new trend, historically it has happened a lot. There is a girl named Abel in my genealogy about 6 to 8 generations back. If you look at genealogy you find some really surprising name trends.
Or is the issue for you that if a certain number of people use a boys name for a girl it ruins it for you? I can see how someone would not use Avery for example for a boy since more girls than boys are receiving the name. It wouldn't stop me but I could see why some people are uncomfortable with that.
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Or is the issue for you that if a certain number of people use a boys name for a girl it ruins it for you? I can see how someone would not use Avery for example for a boy since more girls than boys are receiving the name. It wouldn't stop me but I could see why some people are uncomfortable with that.
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This message was edited 8/12/2016, 5:29 AM
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Yeah, it's not that it truly would make me uncomfortable... just annoyed that my favorite boy name seems to be more commonly used on girls now, so now it's starting to become more girly... know what I mean?
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Yeah but I don't think you need to get anxious about Elliott / Elliot. Maybe certain boys names will have that happen but if Elliot didn't get super used by girls during the years Scrubs was on and the fact that it's in the 600's for popularity for girls I wouldn't worry. I could be wrong but I highly doubt Elliot will become more used for girls than for boys. It just doesn't seem like something you need to worry about. I highly doubt it will even make it into the 300's. Elliette or Eliette might get onto the top 1,000 list possibly.
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This message was edited 8/12/2016, 3:40 PM
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That's a good point!
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This is true. You will find William and Michaels on girls in the early 1900s even.
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I'm a male Barbra, usually Barbie, and I love my name; ladies who know me enjoy the feminine attributes or associations of my name - even those who are not fans of the name proper.
I've no problem with Jasper for a girl; as a matter of fact, when I think of Jasmine, I wonder there are not more of either name for either gender with either pronunciation of the "J".
I've no problem with Jasper for a girl; as a matter of fact, when I think of Jasmine, I wonder there are not more of either name for either gender with either pronunciation of the "J".
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I think that's really cool! I would love to know the history of how you got your name if you felt like sharing.
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Thank YOU! (M - w/cross reference)
Thank YOU! Please see my response subordinate to "Seraphina Starstrider's" response under the original query rubric subtext "Re - Elliot for a girl" at the date and time "Aug 13 2016, 6:26:58 AM". At this moment, the message is near the top - if not over the top - (ha ha) of Entity's initial query on August 11. I almost offered all this last year, but a fight broke out, and I did not want to offer what is dear and precious to me into the midst of indifferent conflict.
Thank YOU! Please see my response subordinate to "Seraphina Starstrider's" response under the original query rubric subtext "Re - Elliot for a girl" at the date and time "Aug 13 2016, 6:26:58 AM". At this moment, the message is near the top - if not over the top - (ha ha) of Entity's initial query on August 11. I almost offered all this last year, but a fight broke out, and I did not want to offer what is dear and precious to me into the midst of indifferent conflict.
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I like Jasperine for a girl.
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I like Jasperine. That's pretty nice.
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I like it as well; not only for the name proper, but for the suffix - which also serves as a third syllable. I love when names (also words) flow with a stream of syllables. Hyphenated first names with a middle name to boot - be still my heart!
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You do see a lot of unisex or slightly girly nn's for boys. Personally I like nn's like Danny or Matty or Sasha for boys.
I'd completely use Quinn or Avery for a boy because I don't care if it is more used for girls.
I think it's weird that it ruins a name for someone if that name gets used for both genders.
Elliot / Elliott is most likely always going to be more a boys name. Who cares if some people use it or Devon or Sean for a girl.
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I'd completely use Quinn or Avery for a boy because I don't care if it is more used for girls.
I think it's weird that it ruins a name for someone if that name gets used for both genders.
Elliot / Elliott is most likely always going to be more a boys name. Who cares if some people use it or Devon or Sean for a girl.
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Well, being English, some of those English place names don't quite come off for me on either sex(Devon is beautiful btw, if you ever get a chance, visit). I live in Camden for example and I would not be calling my treasured newborn after it :-)
I all for unisex anything - my own name, Laurel, is unisex, though usually used for females - and have a big problem with gender stereotyping. Which leads me on to ....
My problem with giving traditionally male names to females is that....parents mostly do it because they think it's cool, or a bit edgy. But they don't think it's cool or edgy to give female names to males (usually). And fundamentally this is because we idealise male traits, while female traits are considered less desirable. So it demeans a boy to be given a female name, and elevates a girl to be given a male name.
And then you come to names like Sasha, which is a traditional Russian shortening of the male name Alexander, adopted for a female given name because the -a ending is typically more female, and now considered a 'girly' nickname. I really like it for boys too btw.
I all for unisex anything - my own name, Laurel, is unisex, though usually used for females - and have a big problem with gender stereotyping. Which leads me on to ....
My problem with giving traditionally male names to females is that....parents mostly do it because they think it's cool, or a bit edgy. But they don't think it's cool or edgy to give female names to males (usually). And fundamentally this is because we idealise male traits, while female traits are considered less desirable. So it demeans a boy to be given a female name, and elevates a girl to be given a male name.
And then you come to names like Sasha, which is a traditional Russian shortening of the male name Alexander, adopted for a female given name because the -a ending is typically more female, and now considered a 'girly' nickname. I really like it for boys too btw.
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I agree with this!
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Agreed - well stated
Agreed - well stated (nt)
Agreed - well stated (nt)
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I was raised Catholic during the nineteen seventies and eighties. One Catechism Teacher around second grade was a lady who asked us to call her Mike. She had long, blond, angelic hair, with blue eyes - she was stunning, yet dignified--bearing all the charm & beauty, replete with feminine gentleness that a lady might bestow.
Of course this description is from the perception of a second grader, which I can still recollect...
Of course this description is from the perception of a second grader, which I can still recollect...
This message was edited 8/12/2016, 3:58 AM
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Ugh... I'm just so tired of seeing boy names on girls. Grrr.
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