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In the Baltic languages, 'las' is 'wood' or 'forest', so a name starting with 'las' would probably mean 'son of the forest'.
That Ancestry.com link is interesting, as it takes the origin right back to the Slavic where it belongs: "from a form of the personal name Ladislav (of Slavic origin)"
The 'las' comes from my research of our name, Lasevicius, which is Lithuanian, apparently having a strong Polish root. It's origins are a mystery, but the 'las' meaning has been confirmed for us.
Having said all that, the Germans did go into the Baltic territories, so there may well have been a mixing of blood there.
~ When in doubt, just take the next small step ~
That Ancestry.com link is interesting, as it takes the origin right back to the Slavic where it belongs: "from a form of the personal name Ladislav (of Slavic origin)"
The 'las' comes from my research of our name, Lasevicius, which is Lithuanian, apparently having a strong Polish root. It's origins are a mystery, but the 'las' meaning has been confirmed for us.
Having said all that, the Germans did go into the Baltic territories, so there may well have been a mixing of blood there.
~ When in doubt, just take the next small step ~
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In our family the earliest I have traced was Janis Lasmanis in Medze Latvia working on an estate. In Latvia surnames have gender, hence Lasmanis - male and Lasmane - female are the same family name. I have heard of the source as being from las a word for a serf or a wood cutter. My Latvian/English dictionary has mezs, koks, kokmaterials, and malka all as words for wood. It has nothing for las, but it has lase for rain or sweat drop. Nor do I have a meaning for Lassman in German; but I have obtained a copy of a dictionary of names that says that the first recorded Lassmans were craftsmen around Hanover in Germany something like a thousand years ago. Also, from Latvian histories I have found that the Germans colonized Latvia (to the dismay of the native Latvian tribes - it was like the Indian Wars, but in Latvia) about 1200 A.D. establishing large estates with palatial homes (many started as forts/castles). The Latvian tribesmen did not have the craft skills required to service the fine works of the estates, so craftsmen were brought in from Germany - do you see how this dovetails with the Lassmans being craftsmen in Germany a thousand years ago. Where did I find Janis Lasmanis. He is my great great grandfather and he was a craftsman on an estate called according to different sources "Zarinos" - from script that I had a very hard time reading, a poor copy of poor writing, or from much more clear script "Sturisos". My Latvian dictionary has "Sturis" as "corner" - perhaps "Sturisos" is corners (Chorisos are a really spicy and good Spanish sausage!) or of the corner. Janis' son Peteris Lasmanis, my great grand father, was also a craftsman. My grand father Karlis Lasmanis in Latvia was a craftsman; in the U.S. he became Carl Lassman and was a very skilled machinist - notwithstanding being an alcoholic he was never out of work during the Great Depression - he made organ pipes and was the best - if he was drunk and did not show up for work the factory owner came and got him out of bed sobered him up and brought him to work - that is craftsmanship!
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