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hi. my last name is ornelas. my roots are portuguese but i've been told this isn't a portuguese name at all. does anyone know where the name comes from?
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Hi very distant relative. From what I understand, there are Portuguese Ornelas, and Spanish Ornelas. But from what I understand and after have done a lot of research, I believe it comes from Galicia (Spain), just north of the Portuguese border. That's why they're both countryman which the same last name. Regards.
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Hello idk if I’m doing this right but I am Mexican and reside in the state of Ohio in the US. My name is John Ornelas and to my knowledge it is my dad’s last name and his dad before him and that’s where my traces stop. Every time I ask about the last name it always ends in Guadalajara Jalisco Mexico. And no one knows more. I would like to find out as many generations I can back you know my great great great grandfathers. I’ve heard the name is portugués also Spaniard and also Italian. I would just like to know where the great great person I’m related first went to Mexico and mixed with the Mexicans or Mexican native Americans if that makes sense? So to be clearer I know that someone maybe with the last name Ornelas arrived in Mexico and had a family with someone native from there. I believe that’s what happened in my case, if anyone has any info my email address is johnornelas941@gmail.com thanks!
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Hey, just wanted to add, my family lineage also stops in Jalisco Mexico. Im in california, with family in Mazatlan and down the coast. My lineage is more Portuguese. I don't have much information.
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One thing to say is that generally ash-trees in Italy il less common than we think. The "ornello" in Italian is a sort of ash, but it is not really an ash-tree.
In spanish the ash-trees are called "fresnos" there not any word "ornello" in Spain.
In Italy surnames derived from "frassino" are always local or regional they do not exist in Southern Italy:
See surnames like:
FRASSINI
FRASSINETI
FRASSINELLI
FRASNELLI
See spanish surnames from "fresno"
Fresno
Freseneda
All catalan variants: Freixe, Freixa, Frexa, Fraixeda,etc
Galician variants: Frege, Freijo, Fregenal, etc
Possibly there two italian variants , from "ornus":
Orno
Ornato.
In spanish the ash-trees are called "fresnos" there not any word "ornello" in Spain.
In Italy surnames derived from "frassino" are always local or regional they do not exist in Southern Italy:
See surnames like:
FRASSINI
FRASSINETI
FRASSINELLI
FRASNELLI
See spanish surnames from "fresno"
Fresno
Freseneda
All catalan variants: Freixe, Freixa, Frexa, Fraixeda,etc
Galician variants: Frege, Freijo, Fregenal, etc
Possibly there two italian variants , from "ornus":
Orno
Ornato.
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you have the same IP address as Isabel Ornelas, so are you her husband or brother or something alike? Or are you playing a game here?
About Ornelas:
Ornelas means 'son of Ornelo'. Ornelo is a variant of Ornello, with the female variant Ornella. The meaning of Ornello is 'flowering ash tree'.
The following link is about that firstname:
http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=67845&board=gen
P.S. There is a San Ornel(l)o, thus a saint, but i couldn;t find a patron saint in the database of Catholic patron saints at www.catholic-forum.com
About Ornelas:
Ornelas means 'son of Ornelo'. Ornelo is a variant of Ornello, with the female variant Ornella. The meaning of Ornello is 'flowering ash tree'.
The following link is about that firstname:
http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=67845&board=gen
P.S. There is a San Ornel(l)o, thus a saint, but i couldn;t find a patron saint in the database of Catholic patron saints at www.catholic-forum.com
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thank you for the information. and no, i'm not playing a game, but happen to be isabel's cousin - our fathers are brothers. she was actually the person who told me of this site.
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According to the spanish dictionary of surnames of Gutierre Tibon this surname should come from a name of a place "Ornelas" it is a town or a village near LUGO (Spain).
The italian first name Ornella has been invented recently by Gabriele D'Annunzio, so I am not sure that Ornelas cold come from this name.
Anyhow Ornelas or Ornellas exists mainly in Spain and South America, in Portugal it is extremely rare.
The italian first name Ornella has been invented recently by Gabriele D'Annunzio, so I am not sure that Ornelas cold come from this name.
Anyhow Ornelas or Ornellas exists mainly in Spain and South America, in Portugal it is extremely rare.
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if Ornella is invented, howcome there is a San Ornello and even a namesday after a saint called like that? Saints just don't pop up. Most of them are ages old.
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sorry a mistake...(m)
there is no nameday for Ornello, but there is a saint Ornel(l)o and, especially in Italy there are many surnames like Ornelli, Oranelli and Orneli, all suggesting 'son of Ornello' or Oranello and Ornelo and those are also firstnames if u search on them at Google.com. Thus, i don't think Oranello is a new recent name. About those villages called Ornelas, they either refer to the first inhabitant of the village or to 'flowering ash trees' in the area. So the meaning is the same overall. The origin is still inconclusive.
there is no nameday for Ornello, but there is a saint Ornel(l)o and, especially in Italy there are many surnames like Ornelli, Oranelli and Orneli, all suggesting 'son of Ornello' or Oranello and Ornelo and those are also firstnames if u search on them at Google.com. Thus, i don't think Oranello is a new recent name. About those villages called Ornelas, they either refer to the first inhabitant of the village or to 'flowering ash trees' in the area. So the meaning is the same overall. The origin is still inconclusive.
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