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Help[Opinions] Cadence
I think thats the spelling, Cadence. I woke up this morning at four AM thinking about it. It sounds like a masculine name to me, but i think it's primarily femimine. I also thought of Eliza nn Eli last name. I'm not sure i LIKE either name, but i'd never given them thought. What do you think?
This message was edited 1/3/2005, 3:48 PM
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I have mixed feelings about Cadence. Some days I like it and some days I think it sounds too much like Kay dense, as if to say Kay is dense. I like Eli on a boy and don't care for Eliza. However I don't think it's farfetched to have an Eliza's name shortened by friends or family to Eli.
This message was edited 1/3/2005, 8:17 PM
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Don't give girls a masculine sounding name, please. I like Cadence, but it is trendy.
-Seda*
-Seda*
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First, I hate feminine names that sound masculine
of masculine names on girls. Its completely anti-feminest. Its almost as if you're saying that you daughter has to have masculine qualities to be strong.
Second, Cadence is much too trendy, and will really date your child. It also seems incomplete to me. Eliza nn Eli is just annoying. Eliza is a beautiful, feminine name... why ruin it with a masculine nickname?
Siri
of masculine names on girls. Its completely anti-feminest. Its almost as if you're saying that you daughter has to have masculine qualities to be strong.
Second, Cadence is much too trendy, and will really date your child. It also seems incomplete to me. Eliza nn Eli is just annoying. Eliza is a beautiful, feminine name... why ruin it with a masculine nickname?
Siri
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anti-feminest?
Are you a feminest by any chance? I am all for the rights of woman, and no, masculine qualities are not needed to be strong.
Some people just dont like feminine names. Some are not "girly" or have more boyish names, or feminine names that like more boyish nicknames. Just because you like feminine names on girls does not mean everyone does, or even that everyone should. I dont expect people to like my names, or the nicknames I like with those names, or even my style. Its not my problem.
Are you a feminest by any chance? I am all for the rights of woman, and no, masculine qualities are not needed to be strong.
Some people just dont like feminine names. Some are not "girly" or have more boyish names, or feminine names that like more boyish nicknames. Just because you like feminine names on girls does not mean everyone does, or even that everyone should. I dont expect people to like my names, or the nicknames I like with those names, or even my style. Its not my problem.
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FYI
The argument to which Siri is referring is this:
A "boyish" name implies masculine qualities. (This is just a simple definition, and there is really no way to argue against it. Basically, boys are male, so boyish is masculine.)
Giving a girl a "boyish" name or a name that is perceived as masculine (expected to identify a male) at least appears very likely to be an attempt to impart masculine qualities to the female bearer. If it's not a conscious attempt, then it is likely to still be an unconscious one.
Although this is an assumption about the parents' impression of the name as "boyish," the parents are certainly aware that a "boyish" name makes the impression on most other people of masculine qualities. If they claim they are unaware, it is either denial, or they are living outside their own culture.
Since naming girls implies an attempt to impart masculine qualities, the question is begged: Why is that necessary, important, or even appealing?
The most intuitive answer, which - although it may not be correct - it may be assumed to be correct by a reasonable observer, is that the parents believe the female bearer will benefit somehow from the implication that she possesses masculine qualities. They may or may not be right.
If you believe that a female benefits from the perception that she has masculine qualities, then in order to claim that you are egalitarian (feminist), you must also admit that a male benefits from the perception that he has feminine qualities.
If you name girls boy names, or like "boyish" names for girls, (it does NOT matter whether or not you acknowledge the implication of it to everyone else), you presumably would have to have the same practices and preferences for naming boys "girlish" or girl names, in order to be egalitarian.
If you are not egalitarian, you are one of three things:
1. sexist.
2. conformist without regard to perpetuating negative stereotyping of the feminine (female) relative to the masculine (male), and positive stereotyping of masculine relative to the feminine.
The argument to which Siri is referring is this:
A "boyish" name implies masculine qualities. (This is just a simple definition, and there is really no way to argue against it. Basically, boys are male, so boyish is masculine.)
Giving a girl a "boyish" name or a name that is perceived as masculine (expected to identify a male) at least appears very likely to be an attempt to impart masculine qualities to the female bearer. If it's not a conscious attempt, then it is likely to still be an unconscious one.
Although this is an assumption about the parents' impression of the name as "boyish," the parents are certainly aware that a "boyish" name makes the impression on most other people of masculine qualities. If they claim they are unaware, it is either denial, or they are living outside their own culture.
Since naming girls implies an attempt to impart masculine qualities, the question is begged: Why is that necessary, important, or even appealing?
The most intuitive answer, which - although it may not be correct - it may be assumed to be correct by a reasonable observer, is that the parents believe the female bearer will benefit somehow from the implication that she possesses masculine qualities. They may or may not be right.
If you believe that a female benefits from the perception that she has masculine qualities, then in order to claim that you are egalitarian (feminist), you must also admit that a male benefits from the perception that he has feminine qualities.
If you name girls boy names, or like "boyish" names for girls, (it does NOT matter whether or not you acknowledge the implication of it to everyone else), you presumably would have to have the same practices and preferences for naming boys "girlish" or girl names, in order to be egalitarian.
If you are not egalitarian, you are one of three things:
1. sexist.
2. conformist without regard to perpetuating negative stereotyping of the feminine (female) relative to the masculine (male), and positive stereotyping of masculine relative to the feminine.
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