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Help[Facts] On Albania and Albanian
in reply to a message by danielthegreat
According to the Oxford Englisd Dictioant II CDROM, the words "Albania" and "Albanian" are derived from the medieval Greek "Alvanos, Arvanites, Alvania, Arvanitia". The Albanian people dont even call themselves Albanian: they call themselves Shiqpetars, and they call Albania Shqipnija. Modern Albanian language itself is a blend of Latin, Turkish, Greek and Slavic.
It should also be noted that prior to the establishment of the Albanian state by the "Great Powers", there no "albanian" nationalism -- what is known today as teh albanians were separated by religion (Islamic "Albanians" were in fact Ottomans, and Christian Albanians gought against the Ottomans, and signifiant number fought on the side of Greece -- many as a matter of fact settled in Greece and aspoused Hellenism (many heros of the Greek revolution against the Ottomans in 1821 were of Arvanite origin, such as Kountouriotes and Bouboulina)
It should also be noted that prior to the establishment of the Albanian state by the "Great Powers", there no "albanian" nationalism -- what is known today as teh albanians were separated by religion (Islamic "Albanians" were in fact Ottomans, and Christian Albanians gought against the Ottomans, and signifiant number fought on the side of Greece -- many as a matter of fact settled in Greece and aspoused Hellenism (many heros of the Greek revolution against the Ottomans in 1821 were of Arvanite origin, such as Kountouriotes and Bouboulina)
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hey anyone living in kosovo. do u think a big war will come?
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We albanians call us Shqiptar, it means 'eagle' from the black eagle of the albanian flag. Or nation hero Gjerj Castrioti used the eagle as symbol. Gjerj was a man fought against the ottomans. The greek lost against the Ottomans after som battle but the albanians fought along time. Alvanos is a greek form of alban and arvanitia a greek form of arbershe. The arbershe was the people how imigrated to Greece. Or stay'd in greece. Epirus was a part of Albania intell 1912, Balkan War. All the ortodox arbershes got hellenized of the Greek state. Albanians fourfaters is Arberians (arbershe) arberi, mean 'high mounten' albania haves the highest mountens in Balkan. The illirians meaning "free". Pelasigians meaning "old people". The albanian language is a independent language in the branch of indo-european language. Evrey one is trying to steal our cultur, heros, muthology, history, language, country. Albania means "the land of the high landers". Some fue people call them self albanese but not many. The name Albania is dervied from the illirian tribe Arberi or Albani, the word lives on in albanish. Go and study more....
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> Evrey one is trying to steal our cultur, heros, muthology, history, language, country
Is this paranoia, or is this paranoia?
Is this paranoia, or is this paranoia?
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OR HERE:
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Nermin Vlora Falaschi “Etruscan, a Living Language “
ALBANIA, THE FOUNDLING STATE OF EUROPE
BY WADHAM PEACOCK
Ferdinand Schevill, The Balkans: From the Earliest Times to the Present Day (Ayer Company Publishers 1971)
Even though all the people in the balkan pennisula have arrived sometime in the past, only two people are autochthonous and non-barbaric: The Greeks and Albanians, only to languages are autchthonous and great: Greek and Albanian, the first one arriving from the dark depths of the Aegean and written on papyrus and paper; the second one has come through riding the pelasgic nights, carved only in stone, blood and spirits...............
Noel Malcolm , Kosovo: A Short History (London: Macmillan, 1998 ) p.31
It is clear that Albanian is indeed the only surviving representative (apart from Greek) of an ancient Balkan language: it belongs to the Indo-European family of languages, but exists in a sub-section of its own, with no immediate relatives. If either Illyrian or Thracian could be identified as its parent, this would at least set some fairly clear geographical limits to the early home of the Albanians
Robert D. Kaplan Balkan Ghosts: A Journey Through History (Random House Inc. New York 1996) p.43
Albanians descend from ancient Illyrian tribes that by some accounts came to the Balkan Peninsula even before the Greeks did, and more than a thousand years before the Slavs. The Albanian language, Shqip, also derives from that of the Illyrian tribes and bears no similarity to any other known tongue.
A. Rambraud, L'Empire Grec au X-eme Siecle. p.262
The Albanian highlanders continued to serve in the Byzantine Army, but not in the same scale as in the Roman Army. When their food supplies were running low, the highlanders came in the lowlands and pillaged other villages.
The Albanian language is the oldest Indo-European idiom
according to WEBSTER’S NEW TWENTIETH CENTURY DICTIONARY, Unabridged Second Edition, De Luxe Color, William Collins and World Publishing Co., Inc., 1975, ISBN: 0-539-048523-3
4jim
Nermin Vlora Falaschi “Etruscan, a Living Language “
ALBANIA, THE FOUNDLING STATE OF EUROPE
BY WADHAM PEACOCK
Ferdinand Schevill, The Balkans: From the Earliest Times to the Present Day (Ayer Company Publishers 1971)
Even though all the people in the balkan pennisula have arrived sometime in the past, only two people are autochthonous and non-barbaric: The Greeks and Albanians, only to languages are autchthonous and great: Greek and Albanian, the first one arriving from the dark depths of the Aegean and written on papyrus and paper; the second one has come through riding the pelasgic nights, carved only in stone, blood and spirits...............
Noel Malcolm , Kosovo: A Short History (London: Macmillan, 1998 ) p.31
It is clear that Albanian is indeed the only surviving representative (apart from Greek) of an ancient Balkan language: it belongs to the Indo-European family of languages, but exists in a sub-section of its own, with no immediate relatives. If either Illyrian or Thracian could be identified as its parent, this would at least set some fairly clear geographical limits to the early home of the Albanians
Robert D. Kaplan Balkan Ghosts: A Journey Through History (Random House Inc. New York 1996) p.43
Albanians descend from ancient Illyrian tribes that by some accounts came to the Balkan Peninsula even before the Greeks did, and more than a thousand years before the Slavs. The Albanian language, Shqip, also derives from that of the Illyrian tribes and bears no similarity to any other known tongue.
A. Rambraud, L'Empire Grec au X-eme Siecle. p.262
The Albanian highlanders continued to serve in the Byzantine Army, but not in the same scale as in the Roman Army. When their food supplies were running low, the highlanders came in the lowlands and pillaged other villages.
The Albanian language is the oldest Indo-European idiom
according to WEBSTER’S NEW TWENTIETH CENTURY DICTIONARY, Unabridged Second Edition, De Luxe Color, William Collins and World Publishing Co., Inc., 1975, ISBN: 0-539-048523-3
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Yikes! Pardon my typos!
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