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[Surname] Re: "Ap names"
by Marc (guest)
5/20/2011, 8:19 AM
in reply to a message by Furienna
You'll find more at http://www.amethyst-night.com/names/welshsurs.html under the letters B and P.
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- Furienna (guest)   +7
5/20/2011, 3:13 PM
Thank you!And just to make things clear, it's of course "Prince", that orginally meant "son of Rhys", not "Prince".
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- Jim Young (guest)   +6
5/22/2011, 6:36 AM
The prefix becomes a 'B' with names beginning with an a vowel - Bedward, Bellis, Beynon, Bowen; a P with names beginning with an H or an R - Parry (Harry), Penry (Henry), Pugh (Hugh), Probert, Probin, etc.
Names beginning with other consonents don't appear to have retained the prefix in any form.
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- Furienna (guest)
5/29/2011, 1:20 PM
You seem to be right. Interesting.
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- Marc (guest)   +2
5/22/2011, 9:12 AM
Two exceptions would be Apjohn and Upjohn.
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- Furienna (guest)
5/29/2011, 1:21 PM
Oh yes. I discovered the name "Upjohn" right after I made this thread.
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- Jim Young (guest)
5/22/2011, 11:54 AM
Oh yes. Now you've got me thinking.
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- Jim Young (guest)   +1
5/22/2011, 8:29 AM
Also, the Bretons of France, whose language is related to Welsh, have a few names of this kind, e.g., Abalain, Abhervé, Abolivier, etc.
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- Furienna (guest)
5/29/2011, 1:22 PM
Ah, it only make sense, that they would, as the Bretons too are Celts. Thank you for that contribution.
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