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Help[Opinions] Thomas, Peter and Rórdán
Thoughts on Rórdán, Peter and Thomas?
I enjoy both but hesitate to lock them in as my #1 fave.
1. Thomas seems relatively high on the charts, but I have to say the youngest I know, a cousin's son, is 10.
2. Peter is lower in popularity, which I like, but it was my Dad's name and sometimes I worry that having an honor name is maybe a burden?
3. Rórdán is a name we just like, my husband likes the meaning of Rórdán better than Rory although we do plan to use the nickname Rory. We like that it is familiar without being popular.
So,
1a. How many Thomas/Tom/Tommys do you know under 10? And would it bother you to have a kid with the same name as your cousin's child?
2a. Do you have an honor name of a close, deceased relative? Do you like it? Does it feel like you have to live up to said relative?
3a. Rory is also known in the US as female name after Gilmore Girls popularity. I don't see this often in real life, do you? And 2nd are the accents a problem? We have considered just Rordan. This may be a great leap into overdramatics but does Rordan look like we are hopping on the Aidan/Jayden/Cayden trend?
Combos (2nd mns are family last names)
Thomas Samson Steel
Peter Samson Steel
Rórdán Kier Donal
Rory Kieran Donal
I enjoy both but hesitate to lock them in as my #1 fave.
1. Thomas seems relatively high on the charts, but I have to say the youngest I know, a cousin's son, is 10.
2. Peter is lower in popularity, which I like, but it was my Dad's name and sometimes I worry that having an honor name is maybe a burden?
3. Rórdán is a name we just like, my husband likes the meaning of Rórdán better than Rory although we do plan to use the nickname Rory. We like that it is familiar without being popular.
So,
1a. How many Thomas/Tom/Tommys do you know under 10? And would it bother you to have a kid with the same name as your cousin's child?
2a. Do you have an honor name of a close, deceased relative? Do you like it? Does it feel like you have to live up to said relative?
3a. Rory is also known in the US as female name after Gilmore Girls popularity. I don't see this often in real life, do you? And 2nd are the accents a problem? We have considered just Rordan. This may be a great leap into overdramatics but does Rordan look like we are hopping on the Aidan/Jayden/Cayden trend?
Combos (2nd mns are family last names)
Thomas Samson Steel
Peter Samson Steel
Rórdán Kier Donal
Rory Kieran Donal
This message was edited 5/24/2021, 4:33 PM
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Thomas is #21 (I think?) in my province for boys, but I've never actually met a little Thomas. I think its a solid classic name that isn't as ubiquitous as something like William. I don't think your cousin is a problem, unless you see them frequently, and even then it wouldn't bother me.
I love the name Peter, its such a handsome underused classic. I don't think having the same name as your dad would be a burden, unless your dad is a good guy I think its nice.
Rórdán is handsome as well, I'd warn you though (I am guessing you are in the US? you mention US popularity) that no one will use the accents. I do think if you like Rory and would use that as a nickname anyways you should just use Rory, meanings aren't really that important.
1. I don't know any Thomas' under 10.
2. I have three honouring names personally, my great-grandmothers, my grandfathers and my grandmother. I ended up changing one of my middle names as an adult because I was named after another grandmother who was an awful person. I like having family names.
3. I have met one little girl named Roryee (seriously spelled that way) and most people thought it was stupid and masculine. I don't think its a problem to use Rory on a boy.
I love the name Peter, its such a handsome underused classic. I don't think having the same name as your dad would be a burden, unless your dad is a good guy I think its nice.
Rórdán is handsome as well, I'd warn you though (I am guessing you are in the US? you mention US popularity) that no one will use the accents. I do think if you like Rory and would use that as a nickname anyways you should just use Rory, meanings aren't really that important.
1. I don't know any Thomas' under 10.
2. I have three honouring names personally, my great-grandmothers, my grandfathers and my grandmother. I ended up changing one of my middle names as an adult because I was named after another grandmother who was an awful person. I like having family names.
3. I have met one little girl named Roryee (seriously spelled that way) and most people thought it was stupid and masculine. I don't think its a problem to use Rory on a boy.
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I do find two accents in the same name a bit excessive. What about Ruairi or Ruairidh? Where I live, Rory is strictly male, but that doesn't help for the planet in general.
I don't know many under-10s. Both my grandfathers were Thomas, known as Tom; given enough sons, I'd have used it. Age really isn't an issue for me.
I named my son Peter, after a friend. He has two mns, both also honouring. My daughters have five honouring names between them. They all love the family-or-friend connection and don't feel remotely burdened.
I don't know many under-10s. Both my grandfathers were Thomas, known as Tom; given enough sons, I'd have used it. Age really isn't an issue for me.
I named my son Peter, after a friend. He has two mns, both also honouring. My daughters have five honouring names between them. They all love the family-or-friend connection and don't feel remotely burdened.
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Thanks!
We thought about Ruairi, my husband actually prefers it, but in the US we fear it will not be "easy" for people to say/understand. So, we defaulted to Rory for ease. I agree the double accent looks like a lot, does dropping them make Rordan less than desirable? I think not, I just hate made up names and don't want it to look/feel like I made it up.
How old is your son?
We thought about Ruairi, my husband actually prefers it, but in the US we fear it will not be "easy" for people to say/understand. So, we defaulted to Rory for ease. I agree the double accent looks like a lot, does dropping them make Rordan less than desirable? I think not, I just hate made up names and don't want it to look/feel like I made it up.
How old is your son?
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Would Riordan be a problem in the States? Reer-d'n? And, if people ask about the pronunciation of Ruairi and are told that 'it's like Rory", surely that problem would go away? I don't like dumbing down, especially if there isn't a clear, definite reason for it, not just a fear or suspicion.
My son is grown up!
My son is grown up!
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I think Riordan is a common enough last name that it should be recognizable. I don't love the "rear" as much as "roar" though. But it is an option.
And you're right it is easy to correct. And in a world where people make up crazy spellings for no reason it is silly of me to bat an eye over a legitimate spelling.
And you're right it is easy to correct. And in a world where people make up crazy spellings for no reason it is silly of me to bat an eye over a legitimate spelling.
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None under 10, if you really like name, I wouldn't worry about cousins child. I think honour names are nice. The only Rory I know are males. I don't like the hassle of the accents, and not on the ayden trend
I like the Thomas, Peter combos . I prefer rordan kieran, I like your names in this order Thomas, Peter, Rory, rordan. I prefer Riordan to Rordan
I like the Thomas, Peter combos . I prefer rordan kieran, I like your names in this order Thomas, Peter, Rory, rordan. I prefer Riordan to Rordan
This message was edited 5/24/2021, 3:54 PM
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I could see you were trying to avoid the double an ending. I think it's ok, yes I can see the nn more Rory nn more intuitive
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I think it really depends on how much of a relationship you have with the cousin in order to determine it's usability or not imo. For instance I'm in my mid-20s and have only seen one of my cousin's in person the last 8 or so years... and even that one cousin I only see maybe once a year at most sometimes it's a year and a half. Her son knows me so little he occasionally gets my name wrong XD So for me personally if one of my cousins ended up in the hospital tonight and birthed a surprise I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant baby and used one of my top names by some weird coincidence... I'd more than likely still use it tbh... even the cousin I see Maybe once a year I'd still consider it! So there is some names confusion one day out of the year.. big whoop. I think it really is your own judgement call in that department. But if this is a cousin you see with regularity and have a consistent relationship with yes then I would consider not using it.
I'm not sure if I know any Thomas under 10... I believe I know one that's about Middle School aged but that is the youngest I can go off the top of my head at least
I don't have any children myself yet but I do have family members that were used in honoring with their names. My younger sister is one of them but because she never knew the great aunt of which she was named she's not super appreciative of that fact it only refers to it as "an old lady name! * it's worth noting that she has a two-part name & both halves of it are still in the top 400* but then again my sister is a little bit of a brat so maybe a child in the present would feel differently who knows. I think it feels differently when the kid has no idea who the person was or has no context to their background. People tend to be more appreciative of honoring names when they have stories about the people of which they are named and my sister is not one of those people.. she has only the name.
Incidentally I myself have a relative named Rory. He has reported before he isn't a huge fan of it because it's a little bit eccentric but he doesn't hate it or anything. No Rordan does not look trendy to me. It's hard to be objective on accents because I don't know what region you are from though I know my own ppl wouldn't have issues with Rory but may need 1 or 2 tries for Rordan.
I'm not sure if I know any Thomas under 10... I believe I know one that's about Middle School aged but that is the youngest I can go off the top of my head at least
I don't have any children myself yet but I do have family members that were used in honoring with their names. My younger sister is one of them but because she never knew the great aunt of which she was named she's not super appreciative of that fact it only refers to it as "an old lady name! * it's worth noting that she has a two-part name & both halves of it are still in the top 400* but then again my sister is a little bit of a brat so maybe a child in the present would feel differently who knows. I think it feels differently when the kid has no idea who the person was or has no context to their background. People tend to be more appreciative of honoring names when they have stories about the people of which they are named and my sister is not one of those people.. she has only the name.
Incidentally I myself have a relative named Rory. He has reported before he isn't a huge fan of it because it's a little bit eccentric but he doesn't hate it or anything. No Rordan does not look trendy to me. It's hard to be objective on accents because I don't know what region you are from though I know my own ppl wouldn't have issues with Rory but may need 1 or 2 tries for Rordan.
This message was edited 5/24/2021, 3:03 PM
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Good perspective!
My children will unfortunately never know my Dad but he and I were extremely close and I do share stories, pictures, etc. So, the memories are alive but a potential son named Peter would never have his own memories.
I think you have told me the story of the Rory you know and his dislike of the name. My husband's family lives in Northern England and Scotland so the name Rory is way more familiar. Also, my brother in law has an accent in his name so that is normal for them. My family would fins Rory totally normal but the accents would likely be forgotten at times.
My children will unfortunately never know my Dad but he and I were extremely close and I do share stories, pictures, etc. So, the memories are alive but a potential son named Peter would never have his own memories.
I think you have told me the story of the Rory you know and his dislike of the name. My husband's family lives in Northern England and Scotland so the name Rory is way more familiar. Also, my brother in law has an accent in his name so that is normal for them. My family would fins Rory totally normal but the accents would likely be forgotten at times.
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I think with regards to Peter it would be fine. You don't have to know the person but so long as there are stories to be had that is the important thing imo. It would be a sweet idea. Maybe since you are down to just three you can wait till he is born and just wait and see which one he "feels like" once you hold him.
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