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[Opinions] My mistake. Lauren, let me restate that, and you may find this very interesting
I think I inadvertantly misrepresented how Feinson refers to these dominant letter groupings. I have to admit I have not read the book cover to cover, and I know I saw the word phoneme a number of times. But as I flip through the book now, specifically looking for that word, it only appears in reference to just the sort of consonant combinations you're refering to, such as S and H.I just found it on page 61, for example, where Feinson refers to the CH phoneme, though that page is about the CHR consonant group, but he did not call CHR a phoneme. On most pages he doesn't even refer to the consonant combinations as such, but says things like "KL names are undergoing a surge in popularity" [page 218]; "...defines the essense of the TRN personality" [page 393]; and "NDs have the ability to..." [page 291].Also, he has a great many consonant groups from names in which the consonants are not... how do I say this... not sequentially in contact with each other within the name, understand? For example, on page 367 the consonant group SMR is held up as the dominant force in Seymour and Summer, among others (he lists 7 names for this group). But no two of those three letters touch each other within the names. He does not refer to SMR as a phoneme. Instead he talks about each of the three letters one at a time, and what each contributes to the sound of the name - and the potential personality of the bearer of that name ("SMRs excel in jobs that require hand-eye coordination...").I'm not a linguist by training, so it was likely my own misinterpretation of that word at fault. I used it in reference to LL where he did not. Sorry. Don't want to mislead anyone about what the man has written.And Dr. Evans told me that anyone can join ANS without sponsorship; it must have a large membership (I'm curious about joining myself). The fact that Dr. Evans doesn't know Feinson does not bother Dr. Evans (not that he mentioned to me, anyway), nor me, and does not, on its face, automatically disqualify the guy from being legit.
Oh, wait, on page 207 he does say "This popularity may have something to do with the JSH phoneme's rare combination...for when words contain the SH phoneme, they usually..." Maybe it's his editor's fault!
By way of apology for misleading you, let me show you what Mr. Feinson has written about the name Lauren. Then you can decide better for yourself.On page 246, the consonant combination LRN is called "the Compliant." Traits listed are "Childlike, Attentive, Loving; Obsessive, Immature, Passive." People with LRN names score 8 of 10 for Charisma; 9/10 for Career Success; 9/10 for Love & Friendship; and 6/10 for Power. Names that fall in the category of LRN are listed thusly (two names on a line are as Feinson lists them so):Laraine
Laron
Larraine
Lauran
Laureen
Lauren
Laurena
Laurence
Loraine, Lorean
Loreen, Loren
Lorena, Lorene
Lorina, Lorine
Lorna, Lorne
Lorenza
Lorenzo
Loriann
Lorraine
Lorriane
LorrineFeinson writes about the LRN names (all italic emphasis is Feinson's): "Both the LRN names and the personalities they represent are complex in their construction. The letter R represents the youthfully romantic qualities found in the words ripe, reproductive, racy, rapture and randy, but the letter N is the authoritative letter of negativity (no, not, never, naught, and nada) and suggests a measure of cynicism and conservatism. The letter L, on the other hand, is the definitive symbol of love, laughter, life and learning and bespeaks an individual with an uncommon emotional intelligence. All told, the LRN combination suggests the feeling of a romance not quite realized in the words lovelorn, alluring, forlorn, flowering and leering. Although only about a quarter of a million people in the US bear a LRN name (of which Lorraine and Lauren comprise the vast majority), this mainly feminine root is currently enjoying an extraordinary surge of popularity."These amenable people may appear to be demure and submissive, but they're held up by a backbone of pure titanium. And if LRNs are capable of summoning up an impressive tantrum from time to time, it's usually just to make a point. The downside to having people think that you're an innocent is that it's somewhat inconvenient to grow up. So many people are willing to shield them from harm that their maturation is often compromised. Perhaps this is why so many LRNs retain their childish outlooks well into adulthood."Having few insecurities, LRNs have little need to dominate others. Soft-spoken and exuding the gentle self-confidence of alpha males or females, they are responsible workers who flourish in positions of authority and have no problem with ceding control to someone else. Exceptionally intelligent, they are drawn to careers in science, medicine or law, but will readily adapt to any job that provides sufficient intellectual stimulation. If you're ever going to encounter the LRN's inclination for pickiness, it's going to be in the workplace. A healthy work environment is critical to their mental well-being and productivity; desks must be shiny, computers fast, and pencils and coworkers sharp."LRN's cool reserve can be off-putting and -- because many people believe them to be too self-sufficient -- LRNs must exert themselves to make friends. But once they've sown their seeds in their primary relationships, their roots grow strong and deep. LRNs make for low-maintenance marriage partners who aren't into flashy demonstrations of love. All they need is a little nourishment and the occasional dash of spice."Lauren Bacall is cited as a famous LRN.Any of this sound familiar, or completely whacked?
~Lillian~
Proud daughter of Ann and John
Proud sister of Lauren and Leah
Proud wife of David
Proud mother of Alexander, Scarlett, Sophia, and Gideon
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I see. I'm not sure whether a group of three letters can be a phoneme, or if there's a different name for groups of three, I just know that they have to be next to each other to be considered one.I'm not sure about passive (I can be fairly confrontational!), but the rest of that description for LRN names does sound fairly accurate!I should also probably apologize for any confusion caused by saying that the 'll' phoneme is in the words apple and puzzle. I've just re-read my original post and realised that that doesn't actually make sense, which may have made my post a bit difficult to understand!
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passive vs. confrontationalFeinson did say that LRNs have titanium backbones! *LOL*~Lillian~
Proud daughter of Ann and John
Proud sister of Lauren and Leah
Proud wife of David
Proud mother of Alexander, Scarlett, Sophia, and Gideon
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