[Facts] Jewish is not a language, you mean Hebrew.
Hi, I couldn't help noticing that on the name translator, where it says select a language, you have Jewish. Jewish is not a language, just like Mexican is not a language. The Jewish people have always spoken Hebrew. However, if you meant 'select a nationality' to translate into, then Jewish may be correct.
Just thought I oughtta mention somthing. Thanks,
Inz
Just thought I oughtta mention somthing. Thanks,
Inz
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The Jewish people have always spoken Hebrew? You are rather mistaken here. Even before being expelled by the Romans, Jews had switched to Aramaic for everyday use, though they did continue to use Hebrew as a liturgical language.
In the diaspora, there were loads and loads of Jewish languages. Most people have heard of Yiddish, and Ladino's been mentioned in this thread, but there are a lot more. Have a look on Wikipedia. In Europe alone, there's Yiddish, Ladino, Yevanic, Knaanic, Catalanic, Shuadit, Zarphatic, and many more less-well-documented ones. Hebrew only became the living tongue of large masses of Jews with the rise of Zionism and the return to what's now Israel (but was then the British Mandate of Palestine). Even now, not every Jew speaks Hebrew, let alone as a home language.
Why is Jewish listed as a language option? Well, the funny thing about a transnational culture like that of the Jews is that there's a lot of bleedover. If an Ashkenazi Jew moved to France, he might join the Jewish community there and speak Zarphatic instead of Yiddish. And perhaps his wife was of Sephardi ancestry, so maybe their children would have some Ladino names, some Yiddish names, maybe some Zarphatic names. Sometimes it's advantageous to group things together like this. There are names that carry over in form between several Diaspora languages, and might as well be called that, even if they're not in use in that form in Modern Hebrew.
In the diaspora, there were loads and loads of Jewish languages. Most people have heard of Yiddish, and Ladino's been mentioned in this thread, but there are a lot more. Have a look on Wikipedia. In Europe alone, there's Yiddish, Ladino, Yevanic, Knaanic, Catalanic, Shuadit, Zarphatic, and many more less-well-documented ones. Hebrew only became the living tongue of large masses of Jews with the rise of Zionism and the return to what's now Israel (but was then the British Mandate of Palestine). Even now, not every Jew speaks Hebrew, let alone as a home language.
Why is Jewish listed as a language option? Well, the funny thing about a transnational culture like that of the Jews is that there's a lot of bleedover. If an Ashkenazi Jew moved to France, he might join the Jewish community there and speak Zarphatic instead of Yiddish. And perhaps his wife was of Sephardi ancestry, so maybe their children would have some Ladino names, some Yiddish names, maybe some Zarphatic names. Sometimes it's advantageous to group things together like this. There are names that carry over in form between several Diaspora languages, and might as well be called that, even if they're not in use in that form in Modern Hebrew.
That's true, however in this case the translator is offering a group of languages to search under.
If, for example, you ask for a translation of Anne into 'Jewish', you get Hebrew, Yiddish and Biblical forms. Thus the description is correct.
♦ Chrisell ♦
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
If, for example, you ask for a translation of Anne into 'Jewish', you get Hebrew, Yiddish and Biblical forms. Thus the description is correct.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
Landino is another language spoken by some Jews...
Indeed, but I don't know if we have any names from it :-)
♦ Chrisell ♦
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
It would be nice if they were added to the database, then I would be able to post the names of my future children without having to link from somewhere else ;)
~~ Claire ~~
My ! are Alia, Eidel, Enola, Israel, Dudel, Yuri, Lina, Lorelei, Leilani, Owen, Julian, Glorinda, Mirinda
My ? are Hillel, Meshullam, Johnny, Ginny, Cordelia, Fiammetta, Yocheved
My ~ are Tehila, Tilda, Hailey, Gillian, Huldah
My / are Aglaia and July
~~ Claire ~~
My ! are Alia, Eidel, Enola, Israel, Dudel, Yuri, Lina, Lorelei, Leilani, Owen, Julian, Glorinda, Mirinda
My ? are Hillel, Meshullam, Johnny, Ginny, Cordelia, Fiammetta, Yocheved
My ~ are Tehila, Tilda, Hailey, Gillian, Huldah
My / are Aglaia and July
Are you of Sepahardic origin ?
I have a friend from Salonica whose grandparents speak Ladino :) Unfortunately, the language has today all but eclipsed...
I have a friend from Salonica whose grandparents speak Ladino :) Unfortunately, the language has today all but eclipsed...
A lot of Hebrew names, mostly important characters in the Bible, are popular. My name, Sarah, is very popular, sometimes spelled Sara. In the Bible it has an h on the end, I like it with the h. Sarah was the wife of biblical patriarch Abraham, father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and the mother of Isaac. I am very proud of my name's meaning, it means princess, what girl would not love that? Other popular Hebrew/Bible names, Rebecca, Rachel, Leah, Hannah, Deborah, Elizabeth, Mary/Miriam, Tamara, Abigail, Esther, Ruth, Naomi, Martha, and Eve. My favorite Bible names are Rachel and Lydia.
Did you read the previous posts?
Your post, while friendly and chatty, doesn't respond to the topic or contain new information (aside from your opinions, all of this info. is available on BTN). I was expecting to find something out about Landino names. :(
Your post, while friendly and chatty, doesn't respond to the topic or contain new information (aside from your opinions, all of this info. is available on BTN). I was expecting to find something out about Landino names. :(