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Thanks Marc and Marina for your answers... And it is true Marc I cannot assume it... But in a previous post I asked about the origin of caravaggio and I was left with an unexplained "aggio" which, I think it was Marina, was answered with the aticus possibility and since etymology is not a hard science I appreciate any theory if it makes sense... Would you say that the "aggio" in caravaggio" is from "aticus"? Or would you say it has a different origin?