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Ivanov / Ivanova (mostly for Mike)
Ivanov(a) is listed as Ukrainian surname on the site. It is NOT Ukrainian. It is just very prevalent in Ukraine because ethnic Russians are like 20% of Ukraine and Ivanov(a) is very common Russian surname. Ukrainian Wikipedia does not call it Ukrainian surname, just "Slavic" and common in Ukraine.
https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%86%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2
Ivanova: feminine form of RUSSIAN surname Ivanov (not Ukrainian!)
https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%86%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0 (ukr)
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0 (rus)
Russian Wikipedia says Russian and Bulgarian.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2Ridni shows that most Ivanov(a)s are mostly in Kyiv (diverse city) and otherwise biased towards the Russian side of Ukraine.
https://ridni.org/karta/%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2
https://ridni.org/karta/%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0"Surname from Russian" – English Wiktionary
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%86%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2Ukrainian Wiktionary lists it as Ukrainian, but they only have one source and it does not actually claim it is Ukrainian surname, just that it is surname.
https://uk.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%86%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2
https://lcorp.ulif.org.ua/dictua/dictua.aspx?uid=57529 - search "Іванов"Article talking about Ukrainianising Russian surnames: headline example is Ivanov —> Ivanenko
https://fakty.com.ua/ua/ukraine/suspilstvo/20160420-1582194/Forebears agrees with Ridni. (It registers Ukrainian bearers as Yvanov(a) due to transcription issues)
https://forebears.io/surnames/yvanov
https://forebears.io/surnames/yvanova
On forebears it says it comes from a Ukrainian name, but they get this information from submissions by people and I don't know how well they check their sources if at all. None is listed. Sources of where Russian side of Ukraine is:
https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%96%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%B2_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D1%96 – map that shows what rayons / large cities are majority Russian
https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B8#%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 – ethnic demographics in Ukraine: 17.3% Russian (whole country) and if you scroll it shows an oblast map with pie charts of ethnic groups, red is Russians and they're much more prevalent in the southeast and in Kyiv.

This message was edited 2/18/2025, 12:20 PM

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