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Help[Opinions] Re: Kate & Will
in reply to a message by Vek
I don't think they'd name a first daughter Victoria, given that it's looking very likely their firstborn will be the future monarch (it's been agreed, but it's not yet law, so we can't say that for certain yet).
Queen Victoria defined a whole period of history - the Victorian era - a period where there was much change in British society.
I think that's an awful lot for another (potential) Queen Victoria to live up to.
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Diana as a first name will also be out for two reasons.
Firstly, it's not a traditional royal name, and given that the Queen will have to give her stamp of approval, it won't pass that.
Secondly, and more importantly, I don't think William would want to name a daughter Princess Diana. I'm sure he realizes, that if he and Catherine named a daughter this, she would grow up in the shadow of his mother and forever be compared to her. Much better for their potential daughter to grow up away from that.
They'll use it as a middle name, of course they will, but I'd be shocked if they used it as a first name.
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I think Charlotte is out, as William's uncle Earl Spencer (Diana's brother) became a father for the seventh time in July 2012, and his daughter was named Charlotte. Even though it's not the royal side of his family, I don't think they'll duplicate a name used by a family so recently, especially given the fact there'll only be about a year between them.
I don't think Caroline will feature either, I don't find it regal enough, Queen Caroline doesn't really evoke majesty to me. (Apologies to anyone called Caroline).
I think Matilda is too "trendy" in the UK right now. I know it's an old royal name, but that was a while ago.
They won't use Philippa, because even if it's in honor of Philip, people will assume it's in honor of Catherine's sister. Traditionally, the family of the "non Royal" aren't honored in names, for example William and Harry don't have Diana's father's name in their names at all. That surprised me when I first learned of that.
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As for what names I think will be contenders:
* Mary - it might be simple and sweet, but Queen Mary just sounds so right.
* Elizabeth - it honors the Queen, the late Queen Mother, Catherine (her MN) and her mom (also her mn).
* Margaret - the Queen's sister, I could see them honoring her. Queen Margaret sounds very regal.
* Josephine - I know this was used by another European royal family recently, but it's never really been a British royal name (from what I can tell), but if they're looking to bring in something new but which still sounds royal, this is the name.
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I think James is out for the boys, it's the Earl and Countess of Wessex's young son's name, and he is William's cousin.
I would love for them to use Arthur, but I don't think they would if their firstborn is a son, because I think King Arthur is too ingrained in legend.
I think they might use Albert for a boy, although Prince Albert is the name given to the piercing of a particular male part of the anatomy (*ahem*), which could count against it.
I actually think David and Peter might stand outside chances, both King David and King Peter sound very regal.
What I would really love though, is for them to be brave/bold, and revive one of the so-called "unlucky" names, namely John or Richard. They were hundreds of years ago, it's time to bring them back into the royal fold.
Queen Victoria defined a whole period of history - the Victorian era - a period where there was much change in British society.
I think that's an awful lot for another (potential) Queen Victoria to live up to.
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Diana as a first name will also be out for two reasons.
Firstly, it's not a traditional royal name, and given that the Queen will have to give her stamp of approval, it won't pass that.
Secondly, and more importantly, I don't think William would want to name a daughter Princess Diana. I'm sure he realizes, that if he and Catherine named a daughter this, she would grow up in the shadow of his mother and forever be compared to her. Much better for their potential daughter to grow up away from that.
They'll use it as a middle name, of course they will, but I'd be shocked if they used it as a first name.
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I think Charlotte is out, as William's uncle Earl Spencer (Diana's brother) became a father for the seventh time in July 2012, and his daughter was named Charlotte. Even though it's not the royal side of his family, I don't think they'll duplicate a name used by a family so recently, especially given the fact there'll only be about a year between them.
I don't think Caroline will feature either, I don't find it regal enough, Queen Caroline doesn't really evoke majesty to me. (Apologies to anyone called Caroline).
I think Matilda is too "trendy" in the UK right now. I know it's an old royal name, but that was a while ago.
They won't use Philippa, because even if it's in honor of Philip, people will assume it's in honor of Catherine's sister. Traditionally, the family of the "non Royal" aren't honored in names, for example William and Harry don't have Diana's father's name in their names at all. That surprised me when I first learned of that.
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As for what names I think will be contenders:
* Mary - it might be simple and sweet, but Queen Mary just sounds so right.
* Elizabeth - it honors the Queen, the late Queen Mother, Catherine (her MN) and her mom (also her mn).
* Margaret - the Queen's sister, I could see them honoring her. Queen Margaret sounds very regal.
* Josephine - I know this was used by another European royal family recently, but it's never really been a British royal name (from what I can tell), but if they're looking to bring in something new but which still sounds royal, this is the name.
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I think James is out for the boys, it's the Earl and Countess of Wessex's young son's name, and he is William's cousin.
I would love for them to use Arthur, but I don't think they would if their firstborn is a son, because I think King Arthur is too ingrained in legend.
I think they might use Albert for a boy, although Prince Albert is the name given to the piercing of a particular male part of the anatomy (*ahem*), which could count against it.
I actually think David and Peter might stand outside chances, both King David and King Peter sound very regal.
What I would really love though, is for them to be brave/bold, and revive one of the so-called "unlucky" names, namely John or Richard. They were hundreds of years ago, it's time to bring them back into the royal fold.
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