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Help[Facts] Re: Ukraine name popularity data
in reply to a message by Mike C
They DO have current data I think, it is just not on table on site. It let you search names and it show number of bearers so maybe they have popularity data also.
"Gaps in years"? What does this mean? They have all years 1925-1995 on map, there is not gap.
Also why not possible to merge 2 data sets? If you do not access any current data there why can not count the old years too? The years from this site's data do not conflict with 1925-1995, so why not have both in Ukraine popularity data?
Just Lviv data is a bit of issue- Lviv is region with mostly Ukrainian ethnics and many parts of region have more Polish than Russian as second most ethnic group- it does not make data representing all of Ukraine well. It makes regions that are like Donetsk or Luhansk that have almost half Russian population in not good representation and it much more Ukrainian ethnic bias than normal data from whole country or Kyiv. (Kyiv data is good because Kyiv population is similar to all Ukraine population)
For refrence:
Ukraine is 77% Ukrainian, 17% Russian (2001)
Lviv is 88% Ukrainian, 9% Russian (2001)
Kyiv is 82% Ukrainian, 13% Russian (2001)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B8#%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 (Ukraine)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%9B%D1%8C%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0#%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 (Lviv)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%94%D0%B2%D0%B0#%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 (Kyiv)
Of course it is not perfect but Lviv data still is much skewed from full Ukrainian data. Also to mention- data is from 2001, many Donbass people flee to Kyiv and now there is lot more Russians in Kyiv than the number there, and it closer to full Ukraine data.
"Gaps in years"? What does this mean? They have all years 1925-1995 on map, there is not gap.
Also why not possible to merge 2 data sets? If you do not access any current data there why can not count the old years too? The years from this site's data do not conflict with 1925-1995, so why not have both in Ukraine popularity data?
Just Lviv data is a bit of issue- Lviv is region with mostly Ukrainian ethnics and many parts of region have more Polish than Russian as second most ethnic group- it does not make data representing all of Ukraine well. It makes regions that are like Donetsk or Luhansk that have almost half Russian population in not good representation and it much more Ukrainian ethnic bias than normal data from whole country or Kyiv. (Kyiv data is good because Kyiv population is similar to all Ukraine population)
For refrence:
Ukraine is 77% Ukrainian, 17% Russian (2001)
Lviv is 88% Ukrainian, 9% Russian (2001)
Kyiv is 82% Ukrainian, 13% Russian (2001)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B8#%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 (Ukraine)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%9B%D1%8C%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0#%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 (Lviv)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%94%D0%B2%D0%B0#%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4 (Kyiv)
Of course it is not perfect but Lviv data still is much skewed from full Ukrainian data. Also to mention- data is from 2001, many Donbass people flee to Kyiv and now there is lot more Russians in Kyiv than the number there, and it closer to full Ukraine data.
This message was edited 3/11/2025, 8:25 PM
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